you have replaced with ‘advice and consent’ with ‘search and destroy.'”

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

If it's:
1) illogical
2) immoral
3) unethical
4) anti-Christian
5) anti-USA and in many cases;
6) illegal
Then you can be pretty certain that it's part of the DIM platform.
Pity, but I do find it VERY hard to understand how any person claiming to be a Christian can support any part of the dim agenda, especially after the rape of justice they openly displayed at this hearing!?!?

How about because there is an element of truth in it, selectively applied so that they are able to ignore the more general reality of it? The justification would be that the other side is not perfect, unlike their imagined ideals. Eventually, with a certain ignorant arrogance drummed into their collective psyche, those who oppose their tenets will be viewed as evil, then demonized.

Such an imbalance is possible in any number of situations, including religious ones. We must all watch ourselves, examine ourselves. It is so much easier to see someone else's faults than our own.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

There are scandals on the left - bigtime.

Yes, and most are excused or ignored, because theirs is a double standard. They are not really using their own standards against the right, but temporarily borrowing a form of them for their own nefarious purposes.

 

[TCassidy]

They have to destroy him - otherwise Roe vs Wade maybe overturned.

He has already stated that R v W is settled precedent and he would not vote to overturn it. This is not about R v W. This is about liberty. This is about freedom. This is about civil rights. This is about stopping the dictatorship of the radical left.

 

[HankD]

Yes, and most are excused or ignored, because theirs is a double standard. They are not really using their own standards against the right, but temporarily borrowing a form of them for their own nefarious purposes.

True and we must always be aware that they don't really care about Dr. Ford but are using her as a pawn to check mate (probably only check) President Trump's choice of a conservative justice for the SCOTUS

 

[HankD]

He has already stated that R v W is settled precedent and he would not vote to overturn it. This is not about R v W. This is about liberty. This is about freedom. This is about civil rights. This is about stopping the dictatorship of the radical left.

I usually agree with Dr Tom but this time I do not.

while it is true Judge Kavanaugh said those words it will be easy for him to modify what he said when the opportunity presents itself and I personally believe it will. OK True also Roe v. Wade will disappear on its own by the SCOTUS officially calling abortion what it is - MURDER

This is what we have been praying for, and working towards and giving towards and demonstrating against - to END MURDER since 1973 when murder became legal.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Also, general personhood could create issues in many other legal situations in society.

Not sure I understand this - is there an example you could give ?

Ones I've come across include income tax claims, use of the HOV lane, imprisonment, drug and medication usage, but potentially anywhere the mother might somehow benefit from the presence of another person, or be unfairly charged. (Sorry, RevM)

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Graham called the entire process an “unethical sham” and slammed Democrats for sitting on the sexual assault allegations for weeks after they first received them.

WATCH:




“What you want to do is destroy this guy’s life, hold this seat open, and hope you win in 2020,” Graham said to Senate Judiciary Democrats. “You’ve said that. Not me. You’ve got nothing to apologize for. When you see Sotomayor and Kagan, tell them that Lindsey said ‘hello’ because I voted for them. I would never do to them what you’ve done to this guy.”

“This is the most unethical sham since I’ve been in politics,” Graham asserted, fuming with anger.

“Boy, you all want power,” Graham continued. “God, I hope you never get it. I hope the American people can see through this sham — that you knew about it and you held it. You had no intention of protecting Dr. Ford. None. She’s as much of a victim as you are.”

Lindsey Graham Explodes On Senate Committee Over Kavanaugh Process

I'm not really up to speed with the ins and outs of this, but it does seem to me that American democracy is shaking itself to pieces. This is from a UK blog: ' I came across an apposite quotation from philosopher Roger Scruton: “Democracy arises when people are prepared to renounce their political desires for the sake of agreement with those who do not share them.” It does not easily fit onto a placard, yet it has a fundamental wisdom which we need to assert, and, most especially, we need to teach our young.

 

[HankD]

I'm not really up to speed with the ins and outs of this, but it does seem to me that American democracy is shaking itself to pieces. This is from a UK blog: ' I came across an apposite quotation from philosopher Roger Scruton: “Democracy arises when people are prepared to renounce their political desires for the sake of agreement with those who do not share them.” It does not easily fit onto a placard, yet it has a fundamental wisdom which we need to assert, and, most especially, we need to teach our young.

Wonderful thought but it seems that one side or the other - Left versus Right - pro-life versus pro-death, - has been divided and the next step is "conquer" -
which way it will go of course will determine the outcome of our nation/country.

Yes it's not over yet, no matter how this turns out there will probably be violence - Antifa will show up again breaking, burning, destroying in the name of peace clothed exactly like ISIS - strange how that works.

 

[Reynolds]

Totally correct - in fact - my understanding is that this was the reasoning for allowing abortion - as the child had not yet been born.

In the opinion in Rowe, they majority was plain that medical evidence did not at that time exist that would say when life began. They left Rowe up to revisiting with medical advancement. If the court rules the "fetus" is a person, The 14th without question would give them protection.

 

[HankD]

The fetus IS a person deserving of Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Abortion takes away those ALL those Rights.

Kavanaugh or Barrett IMO can help end the slaughter.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I'm not really up to speed with the ins and outs of this, but it does seem to me that American democracy is shaking itself to pieces. This is from a UK blog: ' I came across an apposite quotation from philosopher Roger Scruton: “Democracy arises when people are prepared to renounce their political desires for the sake of agreement with those who do not share them.” It does not easily fit onto a placard, yet it has a fundamental wisdom which we need to assert, and, most especially, we need to teach our young.

But what sort of agreement might that be? The US is a large democratic republic where the tyranny of democracy always threatens. States rights and the will of the people were always intended to oppose it. Failure to retain the strict constitutional limits placed on the central government will lead to an extremely dysfunctional system. Those pushing Brexit seem to recognize this problem.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I'm not really up to speed with the ins and outs of this, but it does seem to me that American democracy is shaking itself to pieces. This is from a UK blog: ' I came across an apposite quotation from philosopher Roger Scruton: “Democracy arises when people are prepared to renounce their political desires for the sake of agreement with those who do not share them.” It does not easily fit onto a placard, yet it has a fundamental wisdom which we need to assert, and, most especially, we need to teach our young.

Others have noticed reasons this seems to be the case: a gradual slide away from recognizing natural law, away from a common biblically oriented morality, and especially away from the sanctity of life. One may rightly suspect that the important order of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" has been reversed. A general dumbing down within the culture has made this easier to accomplish. You are not alone in your ignorance, but may have more excuse than citizens of the US.

 

[TCassidy]

Failure to retain the strict constitutional limits placed on the central government will lead to an extremely dysfunctional system.

It already has. The first nail in the coffin was hammered home by Abraham Lincoln when he made the federal government supreme over the states. (Prior to the civil war the United States was referred to as "The United States are . . . " (plural verb). After the civil war the United States is referred to as "The United States is . . . " (singular verb).

After Lincoln hammered in the first nail, Teddy Roosevelt completed the task by pressing his Progressive agenda and effectively gutting the 10th amendment.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

It already has. The first nail in the coffin was hammered home by Abraham Lincoln when he made the federal government supreme over the states. (Prior to the civil war the United States was referred to as "The United States are . . . " (plural verb). After the civil war the United States is referred to as "The United States is . . . " (singular verb).

After Lincoln hammered in the first nail, Teddy Roosevelt completed the task by pressing his Progressive agenda and effectively gutting the 10th amendment.

Precisely. And that is what Martin and others are noticing the further results of. As a reminder...

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

 

[HankD]

Precisely. And that is what Martin and others are noticing the further results of. As a reminder...

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

I agree with this. If abortion is murder then the several states must deal with it as such.

Unless the pregnancy termination is a valid miscarriage or birth and is forced then It is premeditated and a crime with motive means and opportunity.

 

[HankD]

It already has. The first nail in the coffin was hammered home by Abraham Lincoln when he made the federal government supreme over the states. (Prior to the civil war the United States was referred to as "The United States are . . . " (plural verb). After the civil war the United States is referred to as "The United States is . . . " (singular verb).

After Lincoln hammered in the first nail, Teddy Roosevelt completed the task by pressing his Progressive agenda and effectively gutting the 10th amendment.

Agreed.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

In the opinion in Rowe, they majority was plain that medical evidence did not at that time exist that would say when life began. They left Rowe up to revisiting with medical advancement. If the court rules the "fetus" is a person, The 14th without question would give them protection.

The fetus IS a person deserving of Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Abortion takes away those ALL those Rights. Kavanaugh or Barrett IMO can help end the slaughter.

Yes and Yes. There should be no question at this point regarding the personhood of the child in the womb any more than the personhood of the mother, a major reason for Satan to fight fiercely against anything or anyone who might establish this by law.

 

[TCassidy]

But the personhood of the child in-utero has already been established by law. If a person kills or seriously injures a pregnant woman the perpetrator can be charged with homicide if the in-utero child is killed by the attack on the pregnant woman. But for some reason that principle does not apply if the mother is the attacker or if she approves of the attacker taking the infant's life.

 

[Reynolds]

But the personhood of the child in-utero has already been established by law. If a person kills or seriously injures a pregnant woman the perpetrator can be charged with homicide if the in-utero child is killed by the attack on the pregnant woman. But for some reason that principle does not apply if the mother is the attacker or if she approves of the attacker taking the infant's life.

All I know about is the Georgia law. It is called "feticide." It was adopted after Roe to make sure there were no legal challenges to it.it

 

[Adonia]

I'm not really up to speed with the ins and outs of this, but it does seem to me that American democracy is shaking itself to pieces.

Only because the Democrats have lurched so far left. I mean seriously, they think the homosexual act is not a violation of the natural law, abortion is something to be protected at all costs, and there are more than two genders - that's how wacky they have become. We didn't have this kind of problem in the 1950's and 1960's when Democrat politicians like Harry Truman and JFK actually respected the Constitution.