Ask the same of faith. The problem is you are holding Lordship to a different standard than faith. It is all the same package. You cannot have one without the other.
It's
all the same package?
So does that mean the package is Faith + Lordship + (who knows what)?
I would agree that when regeneration takes place all things become new including the ability to please God.
What seems so illusive to me is the inablity of those who espouse Lordship Salvation (so-called) to define just what it is and most importantly - when does the "Lordship" part happen?
I would contend for the faith by saying that Lordship is a voluntary act on the part of the believer
post salvation to make oneself a living sacrice to God which is only reasonable seeing that He laid down His life in sacrifice for us.
To look to Him moment by moment by following the leading of the Spirit of God
after we are saved.
To feed on His word and grow thereby
after we are saved.
However, there is the carnal Christian of which kind the entire Book of 1 Corinthains is addressed. These walked after their flesh and it lusts.
The resultant outcome of overcoming this carnality and true Lordship is found in 1 Corinthians 13
1 Corinthians 13
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
True Lordship is simply following the leading of the Spirit of God and maturing the spiritual nature we received at the rebirth and not adherence to a set of rules carved in stone or set in the ink of a manmade church covenant (though a proper church covenant it has its place).
Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Galatians 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
The order of events is fruit, more fruit, much fruit.
It takes time to grow and cultivate the fruit of the Spirit.
We are born carnal, babes in Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
To demand maturity of a babe in Christ is laying a burden on them which they may not be able to bear.
HankD
