Should baptists be part of the free masonry?

Free Masons is a cult and no Christian should belong to it.
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http://www.ephesians5-11.org/washum.htm

http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/_PDFArchives/apologetics/AP4W0401.pdf

 

I personally don't care who belongs to the Masons(wheher they be Saint or sinner, they need to stay away from this stuff, I mean), whether it be deacons, elders, laymembers, etc. They do not need to mix "light" with "darkness". We are not to do things in secret, so if the Masons are on the "up-and-up", why the need to be a secret order? The bible states to not let your good be evil spoken of, to not cast your pearls before the swine, to watch and pray, keep yourself unspotted from the things of the world, whereby through temptation ye may overcome. I think that the Masons fit all of these criteria, if you ask me......so no, they have no right to be associated with the Masons if they are CHRISTian.

 

A church should have in their covenant that no mason can be a member of the church.

 

I agree completely.

 

"Should a Baptist be a Mason?????" One word answer.... No.

 

What Masons do

Here is a brief example of what Masons do. Take a careful look at this roster, and decide for yourselves, if a Christian should participate:

What Freemasonry does…
Simply, Freemasonry builds and advances the character of men to make them better.
Building on principals of moral integrity, Freemasons hold brotherly love as paramount to the benefit of mankind. Whether through charitable acts, or by direct involvement, Freemasonry has dedicated itself to the prosperity of mankind.
On the individual level, Freemasonry builds on moral philosophy, through allegorical symbols to impart rich and complex meanings about the divine. What that means is through Masonic education, individuals are given their own personal building blocks to contribute to the build of their own personal moral character, and then charged with applying that purpose in their day-to-day life.
It does not act to impart religion to its membership, instead it builds on the tenants and virtues taught by all religions, including a faith in the divine, the application of the Golden Rule, and the value of leading a moral virtuous life, all with the drive to put these ideas into personal practice. It promotes the active participation in the member’s individual faith tradition, charging them to build their spiritual character.
Throughout the mason’s life, the lessons of morality and ethics are revisited through the extensions of the various bodies of Freemasonry, building on the principals of Freemasonry. Seldom can a mason say they have learned all of the meanings taught to them through the degrees.
By serving to promote brotherly love masons are now involved in extended levels of charity and benevolence to meet the needs of those least able in society.
To serves as an example, Freemasons are involved in all of these charitable organizations, giving to the needs of others.
•Childhood language disorders

•Treatment for birth defects

•Scholarship and direct grants to children and grandchildren of Scottish Rite Masons as well as to members of DeMolay, Job’s Daughters, Rainbow for Girls, and other

•Masonic youth groups

•Research on diabetes

•A summer camp for underprivileged children

•Arteriosclerosis research

•Christmas Day Dinner for the Des Moines community

•Cancer research

•Training awards for religious leadership and those making religious work their career

•A museum and monument to George Washington

•Grants to students at in Schools of Government and Business

•Administration and International Affairs

•Dental care for handicapped children

•Scholarship assistance to nursing students

•Geriatric research

•Child development for good citizenship and sound character for boys and girls

•Outpatient services for cancer treatment

•Low cost education loans

•Eye surgery and prescription glasses

•Treatment for cancer patients and cancer research support

•Masonic Hospital Visitation Program for V.A. Hospital volunteers

•Research in heart disease, cancer, aging, hypertension, and blood substitutes

•Meeting and performance facilities at the International Peace Garden

•A clearinghouse on Masonic information

•Education of youth about drugs and alcohol

•Ohio Special Olympics

•A non-denominational chapel for mediation and religious services at the International Peace Garden

•Research into the causes and treatment of schizophrenia and related disorders

•Research into auditory perception disorders in children

•A Georgia children’s medical Center

•A museum and library focusing on our American heritage as well as Freemasonry’s role in the history of our country

•The first public library in the District of Columbia

•Scholarships and fellowships for Ph.D. candidates in Public School Administration

•Support for students seeking degrees in fields associated with service to country and humanity Orthopedic services to children through a network of 22 hospitals and treatment for burns victims at four burns centers

•Support for the Muscular Dystrophy Association

•A provider of new shoes for needy Tennessee and Alabama children

•An orthopedic, neuralgic, and child development hospital in Texas

•Operates a clinic for dyslexic and aphasia disorders in children

•Provides needy homeless children in the school district with clothing and toiletries
The following is a brief listing of these American Masonic Charities mentioned above:
Abbott Scottish Rite Scholarship Program
Provides direct grants to children and grandchildren of Scottish Rite masons, as well as members of DeMolay, Job’s Daughters, Rainbow Girls, and other Masonic youth groups.
Supreme Council, 33rd Degree, N.M.J.
P.O. Box 519
33 Marrett Road
Lexington, Massachusetts 02173
(617) 862-4410
Amaranth Diabetes Foundation
(Supports research on diabetes)
The Supreme Council, Order of the Amaranth
Mrs. Ethel B. Fry, Supreme Secretary
2303 Murdoch Avenue
Parkersburg, West Virginia 26101
(304) 485-0423 or (304) 428-1565
Camp Chicota
A summer camp for underprivileged children
Grand Lodge of Louisiana, Prince Hall Affiliation
1335-37 North Boulevard
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70821
(504) 387-0996
Cryptic Masons Medical Research Foundation
Supports arteriosclerosis research
Cryptic Masons Medical Research Foundation
Marion K. Crum, Executive Secretary
Route 4, Box 301
Nashville, Indiana 47448
(812) 988-8655
Des Moines Masonic Christmas Day Dinner
Provides Christmas Day Dinner for the community
Masonic Christmas Day Dinner
Masonic Temple
1011 Locus Street
Des Moines, Iowa 50309
(515) 244-6011
Eastern Star Cancer Research Project
Supports cancer research
General Grand Chapter, Order of the Eastern Star
1618 New Hampshire Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20009-2578
(202) 667-4737
Eastern Star Training Awards for Religious Leadership
Supports those who are making religious work their career
General Grand Chapter, Order of the Eastern Star
1618 New Hampshire Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20009-2578
(202) 667-4737
General Grand Chapter, Order of the Eastern Star
Supports the Peace Chapel at the International Peace Garden which
provides a non-denominational chapel for meditation and religious
services
General Grand Chapter, Order of the Eastern Star
1618 New Hampshire Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20009-2578
(202) 667-4737
George Washington Masonic National Memorial
A museum and monument to our first President (and a Mason)
George Washington Masonic National Memorial
101 Calahan Drive
Alexandria, Virginia 22301
(703) 683-2007
George Washington University Grants
Provides grants to students in the Schools of Government and
Business Administration and International Affairs and matching
grants for graduate students
Supreme Council, 33rd Degree, Southern Jurisdiction
1733 Sixteenth Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20009-3199
*****-SR MASON
Grotto Dentistry for the Handicapped Program
Provides dental care to handicapped children
Supreme Council, M.O.V.P.E.R.
34 N. Fourth Street
Columbus, Ohio 43215
(614) 463-9193
Illinois Scottish Rite Nursing Scholarships
Provides scholarship assistance to nursing students throughout
the State of Illinois
Illinois Scottish Rite Fund
Illinois Council of Deliberation
915 N. Dearborn Street
Chicago, Illinois 60610
(312) 787-7605
Indiana Masonic Home Foundation
An endowment which supports the Indiana Masonic Home, a retirement
and convalescence center. Located on 360 acres, is home for over
400 residents.
P. O. Box 44210
525 North Illinois Street
Indianapolis, Indiana 46224-0210
(800) 277-4643
Indianapolis Scottish Rite Foundation
Supports geriatric research at the University of Indiana Medical School
Indianapolis Scottish Rite Bodies
650 N. Meridian Street
Indianapolis, Indiana 46204-1294
(317) 635-2301
International Order of Job’s Daughters
A organization for girls between the ages of eleven and twenty who are relatives of Master Masons
Supreme Guardian Council, International Order of Job’s Daughters
233 West 6th Street
Papillion, Nebraska 68046
(402) 592-7987
International Order of Rainbow for Girls
A organization for girls between the ages of eleven and eighteen who are daughters of Masonic or Eastern Star families or friends of such girls
International Order of Rainbow for Girls
P.O. Box 788
McAlester, Oklahoma 74502
(918) 423-1328
Kansas Masonic Oncology Center
Provides out-patient services for cancer treatment
Kansas Masonic Foundation
320 West 8th Street
P.O. Box 1217
Topeka, Kansas 66601-1217
(913) 357-7646
Knights Templar Educational Foundation
Provides students with low-cost education loans
5097 Elston Ave, Suite 101
Chicago, Illinois 60630-2460
(312) 427-5670
Knights Templar Eye Foundation
Supports eye surgery and prescription glasses
P.O. Box 579
Springfield, Illinois 62705-0579
(217) 523-3838
Minnesota Masonic Cancer Center
Provides treatment for cancer patients and supports research
Masonic Cancer Center Fund, Inc.
1700 West Highway 36, Suite 120
Roseville, Minnesota 55113
(612)639-8433
Masonic Hospital Visitation Program
Provides Masonic volunteers to work with patients at Veterans
Administration and military hospitals
Masonic Services Association of the United States
8120 Fenton Street
Silver Spring, Maryland 20910
(301) 588-4010
Masonic Medical Research Laboratory, Utica, New York
Supports research in heart disease, cancer, aging, hypertension,
and blood substitutes
2150 Bleeker Street
Utica, New York 13501-1787
(315) 735-2217
Masonic Memorial Auditorium, International Peace Garden
Provides meeting and performance facilities for visitors
Grand Lodge of North Dakota
201 14th Avenue North
Fargo, North Dakota 58102
(701) 235-8321

 

part 2 of what Masons do

Masonic Services Association of the United States
Serves as a clearing house for Masonic information
National Masonic Foundation for the Prevention of
Drug and Alcohol Abuse Among Children
Supports education for youth about drugs and alcohol
1629 K Street N.W., Suite 606
Washington, D.C. 20006
(202) 331-1933
Ohio Special Olympics
The Masonic Grand Lodge of Ohio sponsors every Ohio Special Olympian at these games
Grand Lodge of Ohio
P.O. Box 629
Worthington, Ohio 43085-0629
(614) 885-5318
Order of DeMolay
A fraternal organization for boys between the ages of thirteen and
twenty-one; its purpose is the encouragement and development of good
citizenship and sound character
International Supreme Council, Order of DeMolay
10200 N. Executive Hills Boulevard
P.O. Box 901342
Kansas City, Missouri 64190-1342
(816) 891-8333
Research In Schizophrenia
Supports research into the causes and treatment of schizophrenia and related disorders
Supreme Council, 33rd Degree, N.M.J.
P.O. Box 519
33 Marrett Road
Lexington, Massachusetts 02173
(617) 862-4410
Royal Arch Research Assistance Program
Supports research into auditory perception disorders in children
General Grand Chapter, Royal Arch Masons International
111 South 4th Street
Danville, Kentucky 40423-0489
(606) 236-0757
Scottish Rite Children’s Medical Center in Georgia
Provides generalized and specialized services to children
Scottish Rites Children’s Medical Center
1001 Johnson Ferry Road, N.E.
Atlanta, Georgia 30363
(404) 256-5252
Scottish Rite Museum of Our National Heritage
A museum and library focusing on our American heritage as well as
Freemasonry’s role in the history of our country
Supreme Council, 33rd Degree, N.M.J.
P.O. Box 519
33 Marrett Road
Lexington, Massachusetts 02173
(617) 862-4410
Scottish Rite Supreme Council Library
The first public library in the District of Columbia which today
serves the general public as well as international Masonic scholars
Supreme Council, 33rd Degree, Southern Jurisdiction
1733 Sixteenth Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20009-3199
*****-SR MASON
Shepherd Scholarship
Supports students seeking degrees in fields associated with service
to country and humanity
Shriners Hospitals for Children and Shriners Burn Institutes
Provides orthopedic services to children through a network of 22
hospitals and treatment for burns victims at three burns centers,
also provides specialized medical services for spinal cord injuries,
and cleft palates.
Direct phone to Shriners Hospitals for Children (USA) 800-237-5055
Shriner Headquarters
2900 Rocky Point Drive
Tampa, Florida 33607
[USA - (800) 282-9161 ] [Canada - (800) 361-7256] [All other areas
call collect - (813) 281-0300]
Tall Cedar Foundation
Supports the Muscular Dystrophy Association
Supreme Forest, Tall Cedars of Lebanon
2609 N. Front Street
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17110
(717) 232-5991
Tennessee and Alabama Scottish Rite Shoe Program
Provides new shoes for need Tennessee and Alabama children
Chattanooga Scottish Rite Bodies
510 Uptain Building
Chattanooga, Tennessee 37411-4031
(615) 855-0175
Birmingham Scottish Rite Bodies
400 Valley Avenue
Birmingham, Alabama 35209-3899
(205) 942-2687
Texas Scottish Rite Hospital for Children
Provides orthopedic, neuralgic, and child development services to children in Texas
Texas Scottish Rite Hospital for Children
2222 Welborn Street
Dallas, Texas 75219-9982
(214) 521-3168
Masons Assisting Children (MAC)
Provides needy homeless children in the school district with clothing and toiletries
Masons Assisting Children
2200 West Mesquite
Las Vegas, Nevada 89106
Scottish Rite Foundation
Operates a clinic for dyslexic and aphasia disorders in children
Scottish Rite Foundation
2200 West Mesquite
Las Vegas, Nevada 89106

 

I am glad to clear things up.

I have read some of the responses here, and I would like to clear up some misconceptions.

First, Masonry is not a secret society. Far from it. If you look up Freemasonry on Google, you will get 1,400,000 hits. There are thousands of books and websites, where you can learn all about Masonry. The organization bends over backwards to help people learn about it. We hire publicists, and publish pamphlets and manuals. We host open houses, at our lodges ,where people can visit , and learn all about Freemasonry.

I personally sponsored the legislation, to enable the Kentucky department of motor vehicles to make official Kentucky masonic vehicle license plates. Masons wear rings, ballcaps, belt buckles, jackets, all kinds of identification. Masonic buildings are clearly marked, meeting times are published. Secret? no way!

Many (not all) of the founding fathers were Freemasons. Ben Franklin, George Washington, Paul Revere,etc. all Freemasons. 14 of the USA presidents have been Freemasons. Freemasons were responsible for the founding of the first taxpayer-supported public schools in the USA, which extended education for all. Freemasons sponsored the first protestant Missionaries in South America.

Freemasonry is definetly not Christian. Men from many different faith backgrounds and religious traditions join Freemasonry. Only an avowed atheist can not be made a Mason. Freemasonry does not state that all religions are equal. Masonry wisely, stays out of all religious debates. Freemasonry only states that all men are equal.

There are very few secrets in Freemasonry. The only secrets are the modes of recognition: Handshakes, passwords, etc. Even these are broadcast on the internet.

Consider a football team. Practice sessions are held in private, closed to the public. But on Saturday afternoon, the team is on the field, in front of thousands at the stadium, and millions on TV. Freemasonry is like that. Our meetings are closed to members only, but what we learn in our meetings, is broadcast to all the world, outside of the lodge room.

Masons are your neighbors, your friends, your co-workers. One of the finest Masons I know, is a retired Baptist minister. Masons serve as pastors, teachers, deacons, in Baptist churches, and in all Christian denominations.

Take some time to learn the truth. It will surprise you.

see

http://www.masonicinfo.com

 

Appendant bodies of Freemasonry

There are over 100 (one hundred) appendant and concordant bodies of Freemasonry. One of the most well-known is the Ancient Arabic Order, Nobles of the Mystic Shrine. The Shriners, the guys with the funny hats, who ride the little cars in the parades. The Shrine sponsors a network of 22 orthopaedic hospitals and burns clinics, where all treatment is provided free.

You can learn more about the Shrine at:

http://www.shrinershq.org

 

The Masonic "family" of organizations disburses about $2.6 million dollars per day in North America alone, in various charitable and humanitarian causes. We provide college scholarships for needy students, and free medical care in our hospitals. We sponsor research into all types of diseases: Atherosclerosis, Schizophrenia, Diabetes, Spina bifida, etc. We provide free eye surgery in our Knights Templar foundation program.

The Knights Templars sponsor a program to send Christian ministers to Israel, to visit the Holy Sites, entirely free. The Grotto, provides free dentistry to handicapped children. The Tall Cedars of Lebanon, sponsors research into degenerative muscle diseases, such as muscular dystrophy.

And the wide majority of the charitable and humanitarian programs go to children, and people with no connection to Freemasonry at all.

The Masonic "angel fund", is a quiet charity, where the Freemasons work with school teachers, to locate children who have financial needs. We will provide them with winter coats, and boots, and eyeglasses, and all types of items. The Angel Fund even collects old computers, and refurbishes them, and then provides them at no cost to schoolchildren who otherwise could not afford a computer.

And this does not include the "sweat equity", Masons volunteer their time, to serve their communities in all kinds of ways. We will adopt a street, and pick up the litter. We will open our lodge buildings to other organizations like Alcoholics Anonymous. We will provide volunteer teachers, to teach adult literacy classes. All kinds of programs in all kinds of ways.

People who see some type of evil in Freemasonry, are seeing something that is not there.

Give Freemasonry a chance, and learn the truth. You will be surprised at what you see.

 

Sounds like something like Mormonism but they are a cult also. It is true that Masonry is not Christian, but it is a cult.
http://www.bibleprobe.com/freemasonry.htm
http://www.isaiah54.org/finney.htm

 

First, NO! A Christian cannot be a Mason and yet be faithful to God. God is not about "anthropological" efforts to create utopia. That is antithetical to God on the highest order, and akin to the Tower of Babel.

Second, you suggest that the Masons are not a secret society. Please recite here on the board the pledge you took to become a member of the Lodge. Note that according to that (those) pledges, you will suffer an horrendous death for revealing them to the general public.

You are correct in stating that the Masoic Lodge are not Christian. One point for you.

 

The Baphomet Chick tract is nothing more than a lying piece of trash. Theres a lie of every page of it. If your taking a stand against Freemasonary then for Christ sake be honest about it. Passing that around will inadvertently make you a liar.

 

Cemab4y, everything you just posted, you could say about the catholics. Would you want them to be integated into your baptist family, while holding to their RCC teachings? I trow not.


Me thinks you will not be here for long......just sayin'

 

Cemab4y:

John 1:47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!

I will paraphrase:

Finally an Israelite in whom is no guile.

bro. Dallas:tonofbricks::1_grouphug:

 

His name is Charles E. Martin, and he has been here for a while, since "06" according to his join date. As of now he has only posted 8 posts and he gives his name in one of the very old ones.
I know this guy from CARM forums (another Christian site like this one)and he is a die hard Mason. You can find him under the cult section at CARM.
One thing I have noticed about him, He is dedicated and the more you speak out against the lodge the more he speaks out for it.

As for me personally, I once was a mason, but since left. I will say this for it, If a person is not going to become a Christian, then masonry is a good alternative. I mean if one is not going to come to Christ then we would want our fellow citizens to live a good moral life style before they die and go to hell. That's not saying just because one is a mason they are lost, as even many "so called Christians" will split hell wide open, but who knows, they might actually read the Bible they take an oath on and get saved.

What got me out was the oaths, and Charles may remember me when I say this. If one takes a death oath to kill someone for revealing secretes (which they do), that would make him a murderer and if he takes the oath with no real intentions of going through with carrying the oath out, that makes him a liar. Of which neither inherit the kingdom of God.
My question to any mason is, Where does the Bible teach the believer to murder, lie, or take a death oath?
So should any Christian be involved with the Masons or other lodges? My answer to me is, NO!

 

Free Masonry is evil and no Mason should be allowed to be in leadership in a church.

 

Mt 5:29; 18:9; Mr 9:47

These passages present the equivalent of a blood oath to Christians who offend Christ in their attempt to live a good moral life on earth in order they may be saved, where is the spirit of which ye are from, know ye not that spirit?

Do you Brethren take this blood oath given to us of Christ as literal? how many of you have offended in sight and plucked your eye out? How many of you have offended in hand and cut off your hand? How many of you have offended in your walk, (by foot) and cut off your foot?

How many of you really only speak grace with your lip but in your heart have no knowledge of it?

Maybe a mason will read the Bible which he swears an oath on and 'get saved' before he splits hell wide open, of course there are many Christians who will split hell wide open too...paraphrase...this is the same class people????

How know ye are Christs? by a name? Or by the inward witness of the Spirit of Adoption?

Search ye not your own hearts to know whether ye be in the faith or not, or whether ye be reprobates?

This I do daily, if I have a beam in mine own eye, how shall I remove the mote from out of my Brother's eye?

Again, I say Cemab4y must certainly be an Israelite in whom is no guile.

bro. Dallas

 

I know of an Evangelical Free church that voted against letting a Mason become an Elder. He was very well known in a large city. His family was connected in a fair amount of politics, with high ranking and/or elected positions in the city. He had a kind and friendly demeanor.

His family had been in this church for generations. A good part of his large extended family left the church when the members voted that he could not become an elder.

The reason the members voted "NO" was because he was a Mason.

I think the members absolutely did the right thing in voting NO.

 

I would not argue with that, but if a man wants to be a mason that is not even a Christian then that is none of my concern.

We recently went through a change of preachers. I made it known to one of the members on the pulpit committee that I would not sit under a mason. And further more if the church did elect a man that happened to be a mason then I would find another church to attend. He was not.

After he was settled in I asked his opinion of the lodge. Long story short, he felt the same as I do. He went on to tell me about his dad being in the lodge and how high up he had gotten. After his dad got saved he got out of it.