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Before.

I should explain better. They happen pretty much concurrently, with the pulling of Gallifrey out of the Time Lock happening a few minutes prior to shunting Gallifrey into the pocket universe does.

I'm all for wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey explanations.

I'm sure they did and when Gallifrey came back to the exact moment in time that it left, they realized the High Council's plan had failed. Gallifrey was falling, the madman with a box had a plan, so what did they have to lose?

I honestly don't know what you're talking about. The Zygons possess zero time manipulation technology. If they did, they would have no need to steal the Vortex Manipulator. All the Zygons did was figure out what the Stasis Cubes did and use it for their own plans.

This is such a minor thing.

There's no contradiction here. TEoT battle takes place on December 25, 2010. The Day of the Doctor does not take place on the same day.

This was explained. The Moment is the one who opened up The Time Lock so all the Doctors could converge on Gallifrey. BTW, I counted what looked like 17 separate TARDISes.

No. No Dalek ships carried along. They probably would have noticed and thought it was another Time Lord trick that failed.


Here's something you need to watch. It's hilarious.


In the Entertainment Weekly recap of The Day of the Doctor, I found this.

For Moffat's so-called shortcomings as showrunner, you can't argue with this. He took an impossible situation and somehow made it hopeful rather than hopeless.

 

Yeah, that's a terrible answer and a worse explanation.

It's stated very clearly in TEoT that it's the last day of the time war, so my "before" meant that the events in TEoT precede TDotD, but by minutes. Sorry for the poor explanation.

There is one and it's terrible. A signal was sent back through time, the 4 beats in the Master's head starting when he was a child. Don't have a big problem with that. After learning about the 4 beat signal, Rassilon then threw the diamond out of the Timelock, somehow, to follow the signal. Yes, he threw it. It's pretty ridiculous.


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Not sure about long over, because the Citadel was smoking and crumbling around them, so it appeared to me that the Time Lords were successfully repelling the Daleks at the Citadel while the Daleks were simultaneously blasting the rest of the planet to smithereens.

There were no Daleks shunted into the pocket universe with Gallifrey. Thus, if the Doctor finds Gallifrey and brings it back, there will be no war going on. In theory, there would be a lot of time passing where the Time Lords would revert back to their peaceful ways rather than continuing as the warlike people they'd become.

Absolutely. Not only is he alive, the Master is coming back. I have no basis in fact to say that, but Moffat just wrote the perfect scenario for bringing him back. Just before the Doctor shunts (or pushes if you like) Gallifrey into the pocket universe, is there any doubt that the Master would find a way to escape?

He pretty much says he is a future Doctor who's taken on the appearance of a past self, but obviously older.

 

Heaven only knows why Eccleston didn't want to do it. Probably the same reason that Tom Baker backed out of The 5 Doctors.

 

Eccleston is still the 9th Doctor. The numbering doesn't change because the War Doctor isn't the Doctor. Even though he was ultimately redeemed, he still did things during the war that were un-Doctor-like.

 

Here's the trailer for "The Time of the Doctor".

BTW, if you haven't seen it, Moffat informed recently that the Doctor has used up all his regenerations. I had thought this was the case after 8 regenerated into the War Doctor, because of his regeneration at the end of The Stolen Earth.

 

That will be explained, as well as an explanation of why he looks like Caecilius from Pompeii.

 

Matt Smith was fantastic in his first few moments and last few moments as the Doctor. Untying the bow tie and imagining the goodbye from Amy were tough scenes to watch and it was so jarring to see the imposter in 11's clothes. Capaldi's first few moments were terrific. "Do you know how to fly this thing" was hysterical.

Can't wait for InTheLight to ask a passel of questions, because there was a lot going on and I was having a hard time keeping up.

Also, while I don't expect BBC America to broadcast the show without commercials, tonight was ridiculous. Way too many commercial breaks that interrupted the flow of the story so much and they seemed to last forever.

 

They must not have been ginger.

 

I'm not sure what angst you're referring to, because a large bit of that went away after The Day of the Doctor. I don't mind the tie-in to the Time Lords either. I actually like when things work like that.

BTW, somebody on io9 (and if there's any site that gripes more about Doctor Who than io9, I don't know what it is) was speculating about whether The Name of the Doctor actually happens since the Doctor obviously doesn't die on Trenzalore. And my answer to that is, he doesn't? He could still die on Trenzalore in the future.

No, he did not say that. He was explaining to Clara that he's used up his 12 regenerations. She said that he's the 11th, so he shouldn't have used them up, but he reminds her of Captain Grumpy (the War Doctor) and that he didn't call himself the Doctor during the war, but it was still him. He also explained that his previous incarnation regenerated once (vanity issues) and didn't change (The Stolen Earth), but it was still a regeneration.

Maybe it would have been interesting to see the Doctor go through a season where the stakes are higher and we know that if he dies, he's really dead, but I don't think much would be different. A Time Lord has no guarantee of regenerating. In The Caves of Androzani (best regeneration story ever), when he's dying, the Doctor says, "Maybe I'll regenerate", suggesting that he's not sure whether he will or not.

Let's give a few props to Moffat for making the Daleks scarier during his time and his time isn't over yet. The Daleks will never return to their former stature after RTD neutered them, but Moffat has tried hard to make them big and bad again.

BTW, it's official. Day of the Doctor is the best 11 story. The rest of my Top 5 is (in order) The Doctor's Wife, The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone, The Eleventh Hour and Vincent and the Doctor.

As far as the worst stories of Matt Smith's era, I think it's The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe, with The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood close behind. Dramatically, The Wedding of River Song, The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang, and The Angels take Manhattan are good, but the big plot holes in are hard to overlook.

 

A blog billing itself as "science and entertainment from the world of tomorrow". They follow all science fiction TV, movies and books. I get some good information from there sometimes.

I think it's a full cycle. It wouldn't make much sense for them to not give a full cycle. They gave a full cycle to the Master and certainly would for the Doctor.

Everybody's tired of the Daleks.

That was the point. There was no resolution. If he would have answered the question, the Time Lords would have had a point in time and space to lock onto and come back. Incidentally, this is what happened at Amy's wedding. The Doctor needed Amy to remember him so he had a point in time and space to lock onto and come back.

Anyway, if he leaves things on their own, the Daleks and Cybermen and others would have destroyed the planet to eliminate the crack. They might have even tried to open it wider and send in some Daleks to exterminate everybody on the other side. The Doctor really had no other option but to do what he did.

There is some speculation that Tasha Yem is a future name of River Song. I doubt it, but the flirting would make sense if it were River. If not River, you could say he deferred to her, but it was pretty clear that he was still doing whatever he wanted.

I really didn't care if he was naked in front of Clara. Cheap laughs, I guess.

He didn't respond to them, that is, answer the question, so they had no way to know he was there until Clara begged them for help. For whatever reason (have to watch it again), they understood that they couldn't come back, not yet at least, so they sent the Artron energy out and it went right to him as the only Time Lord there.