Which Is The Word of God?

[waynedillerad]

Well, yes, actually I have.

Do you think maybe I should work on that?

Maybe I could be better at it if I do this?

Or perhaps, that it not be misunderstood that I am angry and I intend to ride roughshod over people I could use red and bold...for emphasis?

I don't know...let me know.

You can be angry or anything you like...but please just 1 question at a time.

 

[waynedillerad]

You can even leave if you have to go and make a lists and come back and post it...then I will answer them for you if the Lord be willing. But 1 on 1...just 1 question at a time.

thank you.

 

[Darrell C]

You can even leave if you have to go and make a lists and come back and post it...then I will answer them for you if the Lord be willing. But 1 on 1...just 1 question at a time.

thank you.

Hello Wayne...now we are getting somewhere.

Sorry to seem to have abandoned you, it was not intentional, just got caught up in another thread or two.

Okay, I have to ask two questions, sorry, but, I am out of time, so you will have plenty of time to get to them, and, they will not be "tough questions" designed to trip you up, just...questions.

First, I would just ask a straightforward answer to what it is you have in mind concerning the Word. It really really would give the discussion a platform from which to spring.

And secondly, Do you view the Word of John 1 to be God, as it clearly states?

Have to go,

God bless.

 

[Darrell C]

And sorry, I should have explained: I was being facetious in the previous post where I enlarged the letters...lol.

I just get like that, don't hold it against me.

 

[The Biblicist]

First there is no human being that can know "ALL truth" because that would make him God. The Spirit of truth is not a human being, it is a Spirit.

Second, I imagine you are referring to the promise of the Spirit in John 14-16 which was given to the Apostles? No I am referring to the Spirit of truth.

Third, only the Holy Spirit can reveal truth to a person but He chooses to do so through ordained means Who ordain what he does?

Fourth, only decievers use subtility and guile in dealing with God's Word:I will not encounter any in the Light. But thanks for the warning anyway

Can anything other than the Spirit of truth guide you into ALL truth?

My answers were based on the potential of what the Holy Spirit could do for YOU not based upon the potential capacity of truth found in the Person of The Holy Spirit!

Your question specifically asked if the Holy Spirit could lead "YOU" into all truth, your question did not ask if the Holy Spirit was omniscient in regard to His own Person.

If that is the intent of your question it was worded poorly. Yes, The Holy Spirit is omniscient.

 

[waynedillerad]

Hello Wayne...now we are getting somewhere.

Sorry to seem to have abandoned you, it was not intentional, just got caught up in another thread or two.

Okay, I have to ask two questions, sorry, but, I am out of time, so you will have plenty of time to get to them, and, they will not be "tough questions" designed to trip you up, just...questions.

First, I would just ask a straightforward answer to what it is you have in mind concerning the Word. It really really would give the discussion a platform from which to spring.

And secondly, Do you view the Word of John 1 to be God, as it clearly states?

Have to go,

God bless.

"First, I would just ask a straightforward answer to what it is you have in mind concerning the Word."

It is to some degree within the boundaries of my own understanding and somewhat to some degree not within my own understanding.But having said that I must also say, that what I do understand I know without no doubt is correct. And what I do not understand I make no conclusions on one way or the other.


Do you view the Word of John 1 to be God, as it clearly states?

I believe it WAS as it WAS...isn't WAS in the PAST tense?

 

[waynedillerad]

Can anything other than the Spirit of truth guide you into ALL truth?

My answers were based on the potential of what the Holy Spirit could do for YOU not based upon the potential capacity of truth found in the Person of The Holy Spirit!

Your question specifically asked if the Holy Spirit could lead "YOU" into all truth, your question did not ask if the Holy Spirit was omniscient in regard to His own Person.

If that is the intent of your question it was worded poorly. Yes, The Holy Spirit is omniscient.

Do you always put the burden of proof on everyone else when it comes to your own short falls?

 

[waynedillerad]

By the way

The Lord told me this morning that it is acceptable to him

for it to be acceptable to me

to accept

anyone that believes

Jesus is God

or

the Word of God

is

Jesus.

 

[Darrell C]

"First, I would just ask a straightforward answer to what it is you have in mind concerning the Word."

It is to some degree within the boundaries of my own understanding and somewhat to some degree not within my own understanding.But having said that I must also say, that what I do understand I know without no doubt is correct. And what I do not understand I make no conclusions on one way or the other.


Do you view the Word of John 1 to be God, as it clearly states?

I believe it WAS as it WAS...isn't WAS in the PAST tense?

Would we take "was" to mean that at this point in time the Word was no longer in the beginning?

Or that the Word was no longer with God?

It is a clear statement that states that the Word was God, such as I say the OP of this thread was Wayne.

Are you no longer the OP (opening poster) because I say Wayne was the OP?

 

[Darrell C]

By the way

The Lord told me this morning that it is acceptable to him

for it to be acceptable to me

to accept

anyone that believes

Jesus is God

or

the Word of God

is

Jesus.

I am sorry, Wayne, but I do not believe the Lord would lead us to say that it is "okay" for someone to believe something that He is also leading us to believe is false doctrine. And so far it seems that you feel that something concerning the Word is a false doctrine, and you are here to discuss that doctrine.

Based on the last post I responded on, I am beginning to think that perhaps you may hold to a belief that the Word is the spoken word of God, not God as a Trinitarian would view Him.

Is that close?

 

[Darrell C]

And I see you are no longer online, Wayne, and I myself need to get going, so we can discuss this further at a later time.

Here is your one question:

Is it not Jesus Christ that declares...



Revelation 1:8

King James Version (KJV)

8I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.


Before answering too quickly, I will sneak in another question: is there a a correlation between the terms Alpha and Omega, beginning and the ending, and the first and the last?

God bless.

 

[waynedillerad]

I am sorry, Wayne, but I do not believe the Lord would lead us to say that it is "okay" for someone to believe something that He is also leading us to believe is false doctrine. And so far it seems that you feel that something concerning the Word is a false doctrine, and you are here to discuss that doctrine.

Based on the last post I responded on, I am beginning to think that perhaps you may hold to a belief that the Word is the spoken word of God, not God as a Trinitarian would view Him.

Is that close?

And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.

And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

Let me rephrase this to accommodate you to you.

The Lord told me this morning that it is acceptable to him

for it to be acceptable to me

to not forbad

anyone that believes

Jesus is God

or

the Word of God

is

Jesus.

because they FOLLOWETH not with us.

 

[mandym]

By the way

The Lord told me this morning that it is acceptable to him

for it to be acceptable to me

to accept

anyone that believes

Jesus is God

or

the Word of God

is

Jesus.

Oh brother, you need to be careful of falsely telling people the lord told you anything ever.

 

[Amy.G]

Maybe Wayne is trying to tell that he is the word of God.


It wouldn't be the 1st time I've seen it on the BB. :tonofbricks:

 

[waynedillerad]

Oh brother, you need to be careful of falsely telling people the lord told you anything ever.

By the Grace of God

I do not have that problem.

Besides

Why would I tell anyone any different than God told me?

You must be hanging around liars.

Do you hang around liars?

 

[waynedillerad]

Maybe Wayne is trying to tell that he is the word of God.


It wouldn't be the 1st time I've seen it on the BB. :tonofbricks:

Wayne is not responsible for your lack of reading skills.

or you lack of understanding or the darkness in your eye.

 

[Amy.G]

Wayne is not responsible for your lack of reading skills.

or you lack of understanding or the darkness in your eye.

So now you're speaking in the 3rd person.

 

[waynedillerad]

Oh brother, you need to be careful of falsely telling people the lord told you anything ever.

The Lord told me this morning that it is acceptable to him

for it to be acceptable to me

to accept

anyone that believes

Jesus is God

or

the Word of God

is

Jesus.


And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.

And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.



Wait a min.

Are you saying you all those who believe

Jesus is God

or

the Word of God

is

Jesus

Is against us?

 

[waynedillerad]

So now you're speaking in the 3rd person.

I was hoping to increase your understanding.

But I see it did not work.

 

[mandym]

So now you're speaking in the 3rd person.

Which is another sign of a troll