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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by LillyoftheValley, Apr 16, 2012.

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  1. Iconoclast

    Iconoclast Well-Known Member
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    I am an ex Rc...but we used a ST.Josephs missal when I was little.....they were trying to teach some cathechism but I did not listen or understand, not being a christian yet. The RC catechism is mostly unscriptural.I use good scriptural ones. You have very little theology, that you did not learn from men.
     
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    You are not "ex RC"

    You are still consumed by it.

    John
     
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  3. Iconoclast

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    haha...you should tell that to some of the priests I have spoken with:laugh:

    No fan of rome !
     
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    OK, a [snip - inflammatory]
     
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  5. seekingthetruth

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    Ok I believe you

    So why not just let it go?

    if you are no fan of Rome, then why do you reek of it?

    John
     
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  6. seekingthetruth

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    Even your avatar makes you look like a preist.? priest?

    John
     
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    Huh? It is an actual photograph of Iconoclast. I've met him -wonderful man, very well versed in the scriptures. He's FAR from being Catholic and trust me, live on Long Island and you know Catholic! Utilizing confessions is not evil and they are a useful tool to understand systematic theology. Children used to memorize creeds in churches to remember summaries of doctrine and even my children learned of the Westminster Horter Catechism in their homeschool curriculum! Trust me, they are Biblical - not evil.
     
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    I'm still waiting for an answer to this question. Ordained to what?

    (Moderator hat on: guys please stop the personal attacks on each other and just discuss the topic. Take personal arguments to the PMs please)
     
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  9. Jon-Marc

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    The only way a woman could ever be ordained is by changing God's word since it clearly states that a pastor or deacon is to be the husband of one wife. It says nothing about being the wife of one husband.
     
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    Yes a man should have only one wife. The instruction is for men.

    Phoebe, a woman, was a deacon ... and of course she did not have a wife. God's word says she was a deacon. Paul uses the word, diakonos, 34 times in the NT and only in one case, Phoebe, is the word translated as servant by some, but not all translators.
     
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    John,

    I am a believer priest;
    RC priests do not use and trust scripture....I do. I do not drop it,because I will use any means that enables us to grow in grace and knowledge. The Cathechism I carry with me is most excellent,loaded with scriptures and full of teaching about Jesus..Why would I not use it along with my regular bible reading.
    You have never seen a good one....that is why you protest.
     
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    John, you should see his avatar on the puritan board. I wouldn't accuse icon of being a Romanist but you are correct in that he doesn't put the Scriptures above the man made stuff. And yes, I don't read any post from anyone that is long or has extensive quotes; most of this stuff doesn't need to be re-hashed and I find cut and past to be annoying. I have also had a similar offer from icon, to meet up and thus be set on the straight and narrow courtesy of his expert Biblical handling skills.

    But having said this I firmly believe he means well in a preterist sort of way. That is where I think he can't let go of Rome.
     
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    Yes, I am sure he means well, and has good intentions.

    But I dont think he has any idea how condescending and abrasive his approach is.

    John
     
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    Can you show me an example? Because I've never seen this with Icono. Again, I've met the man and have communicated with him over an issue that I was having at church and he had GREAT, biblical advice without using "man-made stuff" at all - just Scriputre.
     
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    The guy posts way more scripture than anyone else on here, so scripture is condescending and abrasive?????
     
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    hey Ann, I called you today but you werent in so i left a message on Bob's voice mail.

    i did talk to Mark for about 30 minutes just to let him know that i was doing well.

    i will try again on Friday

    John
     
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    There is a difference between quoting scripture and throwing it at people.

    And, he quotes way more creeds and confessions than he does scripture.

    When a person uses scripture to demean others in an attempt to show how much more spiritual he is than the rest of us, then yes, it is condescending and abrasive.

    Even scripture can be misused.

    John
     
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    I'll be at church on Friday if you want to call me there. :)
     
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    I will

    john
     
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  20. Thousand Hills

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    Okay, you gave me a chuckle here, I'm sure Brother Iconoclast goes down the Interstate in his big truck with his priestly beard, passing by little yugos and throws bibles out at them. :tongue3:

    Okay, so the guys that wrote those things just got together one afternoon and pulled their beliefs out of thin air? Though more vauge, is the Baptist Faith and Message essentially not the same thing? What is it based on?

    Your entitled to your opinion, but I personally don't think the guy is being demeaning. My personal goal is "grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior" (sorry I posted scripture), that means both knowing scripture and applying it. You see, I don't want to be a "regular Christian". I want to live a life "worthy of the calling" (sorry I posted scripture again). And I want to "rightly divide the word of truth, so that I won't be ashamed" (darn it, there I go again with that scripture - sorry). Anyways, to each his own, carry on. :thumbs:
     
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