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There have been many threads about mental illness lately, and i seem to be the central object of them.

They goad you because you let yourself be an easy target.

So, when FAL and Steadfastfred, and fredswife tell you that I am hiding behind sin and masking it with meds, they are lieing.

People know what's been going on. The majority of folks are in your corner.

 

Here is the problem with all this. It denies scripture. You claim that things can get so bad that they cannot be dealt with in accordance with the word of God. Here what the Lord says;
1Cor. 10:13

There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it

The answer to our problems is not drugs, but confession and forsaking. We all have battles and yours is no greater then anyone else's. You just took a different road then what God prescribes to deal with them.

Gal. 5:16 tell us how to deal with sin and there is no mention of using drugs.
[This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh

19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

23-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

No drug can make, cause, or help, a person walk in the spirit. That is a command exercised by choice. Drugs cover, but confession and forsaking heal. You admit that the drug will not heal and that is at least something. The rest of the story is that God heals IF we do it His way and that is confession and forsaking.

 

That alone should prove to you that the drugs do not work and confession and forsaking are in order.

 

John,

God doesn't plan our life to be easy or relaxing. He saved you and kept you for purpose.

Perhaps, you will see that the strain of certain threads are too close to you and you need to refrain from them.

Perhaps, you will need to assume the position of the stronger believer and forgive when no forgiveness is offered.

Perhaps, you will see that this has been a personal time of growth in which the Lord Jesus has shown you certain matters to work through that will strengthen your experience in Him.

Joseph said to his brothers,

"Fear not: for am I in the place of God? But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive. Now therefore fear ye not: I will nourish you, and your little ones. And he comforted them, and spake kindly unto them."​

Be a peace and abide in Him. He will, as He has, direct your path as a shepherd. He has a club (rod) and a staff. The staff guides the club protects.

 

John,
At this point it's simply best to let it ride. If you're looking for the opposition to come around to see your side it'll be a snowy day in hell first. Sometimes it's simply best to walk away with your dignity intact, your self-esteem in place and allow others to be deluded all they like.

The majority see the truth, know the truth, and know there are always going to be a few here that like nothing better than to pick a fight. In the schoolyard we'd call them bullies. It's a shame that as adults there are still bullies in our world.

Keep the faith, brother. Remember, Jesus healed the unhealable...a woman who'd walked bent over for 18 years...so far bent over she saw nothing but dirt and people's feet. Yet Jesus called her out of a crowd and healed her. He healed demonics, he healed the blind, the lame, the deaf...even the dead. He loved the adulteress at the well, he loved the prostitute who'd been brought to be stoned....he loves you too and don't let anyone take away the joy and peace He's brought to your life.

 

The answer is confess and forsake and walk in the Spirit as commanded.

19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

23-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.


Drugs cannot bring us to walking in the spirit as you so clearly prove by your outbursts.

 

First off where do you find that a mental illness is a temptation? 1 Corinthians 10:13 God will make a way of escape, think maybe God has given Doctors the knowledge to develop the drugs which help escape the temptation? God has given us drugs that help reduce our colesterol or reduce our blood pressure. The epileptic has drugs which keep them seizure free, and seizures in many epileptics begin at a very early age some from brth although many aren't recognized prior to say 2 or 3, so did the epileptic sin from birth in order to have his condition? I think not, Christ made the point very clear in

John 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

God's works are manifest in many ways including through Docitrs whom He gave knowledge to heal.

Just wondering if you take a pill for a headache? Or maybe cough syrup for a cough? Mental illness in many cases as has been discovered is caused from a chemical imbalance in the body, balance the chemicals and the mental illness is kept in check, let it get unbalanced and the person is yet again suffering.

Just as the alcoholic can from one drink revert right back to acoholism or the drug abuser right back to the abuse. The Holy Spirit convicts and they are convicted and they try to stop but as Hebrews 12:1 states "Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,"


We look to Jesus and He guides could he guide us to a physician who can help with medication?

2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Christ endured the shame for our sin, but who says mental illness is a sin?

Seems God says something about those who beguile unstable souls, in 2 Peter 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

 

Brother John,


I wanted to chime in to let you know that I have you in my prayers. There is no mental illness that our Lord and Saviour doesn't know about(or can't handle). He is the Chief Physician, and just lean on Him, and when times get really tough, He will pick you up, and carry you through it, if only you fully place your trust in Him(I am sure you do). Remember, I am in your corner, and will be in continued prayer for you. If you need someone to talk to, feel free to PM me anytime. I love you, Brother.

Willis Fletcher, Jr.

 

Unless you are a neurologist and an expert at reading MRI's you are not qualified to make such judgments. I suggest you keep quiet on the subject.

 

I am a redneck from the south, and I wear sandals/flip-flops!! :laugh::laugh:

 

I have the bible and state what it says. Condfession and forsaking is the cure for sin, not drugs.

The answer is confess and forsake and walk in the Spirit as commanded.

19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

23-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.


Drugs cannot bring us to walking in the spirit as you so clearly prove by your outbursts.