Featured Babababa Bad to the Bone, Naturally or Not?

No, not my intention, my personal conviction that "nothing" existed prior to the creative command of God, His creative fiat was the origination of all that was, perhaps I am too "shallow" I "thought" my question was rather simple and interesting to ponder. I do not "necessarily" see sin as the cause of entropy, but rather quite simply entropy was a property that God formed the created with.

 

Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”

Adam did not have the knowledge of good and evil pre-fall and sinned, Jesus had the knowledge of good and evil and did not sin.

What does that mean to you?


I say
The point I was making is Adam was never in total image of the Father and Jesus has always been!.

I did write this earlier because I thought for the longest that before the fall Adam and Jesus was in total image, but the above scripture shows that they are not Adam did not have the knowledge of good and evil and sinned, Jesus had the knowledge of good and evil and did not sinned. So when you see Jesus you see the Father and Adam was never in the total image of the Father he was either missing the knowledge of good and evil then sinned against God.

John 14

1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God[Or Believe in God]; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”
Jesus the Way to the Father

5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[Some manuscripts If you really knew me, you would know] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. 12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

 

I agree with you. The first man Adam was never intended to be the created man in the total image of God. That image was going to come through the Son of God who also was the son of Adam, the Lamb of God slain from before the first man Adam was created let alone sin. The creation of man in the total image of God would come through the resurrected Son of God, Jesus of Nazareth then we men could be created in his the resurrected image of Jesus, thus we also will be in the image of God. The first man Adam was created for this but not at that time, he like all men born of the flesh (living souls subject to death) will need to be born again.

The, "what is man," passage in Hebrews 2 explains all of this and shows the man Jesus as having received this from God his Father. Man (Adam and his children) were created to inherit everything that Jesus the Son of God has inherited. We are joint heirs with Christ, but we at this present time are only heirs, not yet inheritors.

 

The hardest thing to wrap our head around is God being fully man in Jesus. Jesus was given a life to Himself a free agency without this we could do nothing but the will of God, if we had no life to our self a free agency. Jesus had the will of the flesh and the Holy Spirit the will of God. The will of the flesh wanted food, wanted sleep, and did not want to die on the cross. He said not my will, but His will (the Fathers )be done. The free agency was tempted but by the power of the Holy Spirit that He relied on said not my will but your will(the Fathers) be done.

Hebrews 5:
7 During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. 8 Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9 and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him.