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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by awaken, Sep 3, 2012.

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  1. John of Japan

    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    Didn't ignore it. Just don't see any profit at all in discussing it with you.
     
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    Don't need to discuss it! It is plain!
    Certain gifts will cease when that which is perfect is come.
    When will these cease?
    Now we see through a glass dark..THEN face to face
    Now I know in part...then know even as also I am known!

    ANd John said...we will know as we are known in heaven!
    Discussion over! John admitted the manifestations of the HOly Spirit will not cease until we are in heaven.
     
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    This is a lie and you know it. I admitted no such thing.
     
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    Post # 293
     
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    My post #293:
    Do you see me saying there that the manifestations of the Holy Spirit will not cease until we reach Heaven? No? Then you not only lied, it was a pernicious lie: you bore false witness against me. And that is a wicked sin.
     
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    2+2 = 4
    I just put the equation together! You admitted that it is not until heaven that we will know as we are known!
    Scripture say that that which is done in part will not cease until we get to heaven by your own confession (that you avoided to discuss).
     
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    ANother observation about this statement....There are a lot of the same beliefs in different denominations. Does that mean they are movements too?
     
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    I don't care how you try to excuse it, you lied. I did not say what you said I did. That's a lie.

    I do not believe that the knowledge of 13:8 is the same thing as the spiritual gift of the "word of knowledge" in ch. 12. The context of 13:8 is 13:2, not 12:8. You did not have the decency to ask what I actually believed. So you interpreted my statement for your own agenda and according to your own beliefs. You lied.

    Everyone on the BB knows I don't say this lightly. I have only one time previously said someone else lied on the BB and that was six years ago, I believe.
     
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    Are you now saying that you did not say that it will be in heaven when we know as we are known?
     
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    Of course I'm not. But that does NOT mean that I believe what you said I did. You lied.
     
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    I could only go on what information you were willing to give! In post #301 you decline to explain it! Did I jump to the wrong conclusion putting the equation together? Maybe I did not have all the facts?
     
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    How am I to know different? You said that it was when we get to heaven that we will know as we are known...the BIBLE said the gifts would cease when we know as we are known.

    So I thought you were finally agreeing with the BIBLE!
     
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    Originally Posted by awaken
    So when will we know as we are known? On earth or heaven?

    You admitted it here...and then...

    I posted this...
    So if heaven is where we know as we are known...then that is when the gifts will cease according to 1 Cor. 13!!

    THen you come back and deny it here...

    So which is it do you agree with the Bible or disagaree with it?
    I gave you every opportunity to explain it! I thought you were avoiding it because of the confusion of what you posted! You agree with part of it..then you disagree, but do not explain...
     
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