Featured "Reprehensible!" is not an argument

Yes and it comes from a skewed understanding of the Sovereignty of God which leads to a skewed understanding of election which leads to a skewed understanding of grace.

 

Then I respectively submit that either you dont understand doctrines of Grace or you have been fed a line of Bull.. There has been a few explanations Ive heard on the Forum, some bizarre & some rational as well as biblical. Please explain to me your understanding so we can at least come to a consensus. You achieve nothing by throwing rocks, which is what your doing by that commentary.

 

Then Rick,I would suggest to you that you have not explained your beliefs adequately enough to get people to understand & accept....see Rev Mitchell's commentary.

 

No I am not throwing rocks. It certainly was not intended to offend. I had no perception it would. God does not have to be in direct control of everything to be Sovereign.

 

So Rev, you mentioned Election & Grace. Got it.... so you have no problem with predestination....to clarify.

 

I would think that based on what I have said it would be understood that that view is skewed by reformed folks as well. I was not trying to create an exhaustive list.

 

Hey you know what, I need to back out of this thread. I am not supposed to be here. I will be glad to discuss this down in the other denoms section.

 

Please dont misunderstand.....It doesnt offend me personally since Ive heard it all before. But I want to provide the opportunity to you or anyone who views this to explain their understanding of Doctrines of Grace & get any misinformation corrected. And its an opportunity for me do get a better understanding of your prospectives as well.

 

Luke 2427, you posted...

You left out something very important.


The God given FREE WILL of all of Gods people, regarding thier relationship with God.

God has never had puppets nor robots.

 

If you really want to comprehend God with the clay I do believe these scripture are essential to understand what matters is our actions at the message.

John 21:
The Beloved Disciple and His Book

20 Then Peter, turning around, saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following, who also had leaned on His breast at the supper, and said, “Lord, who is the one who betrays You?” 21 Peter, seeing him, said to Jesus, “But Lord, what about this man?”

22 Jesus said to him, “If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you? You follow Me.”

2 Timothy 2:
20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. 21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work. 22 Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife. 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

 

:applause::applause::applause::thumbsup:

 

I agree that God is Sovereign. I would like you to explain your comment about "sovereign Light" however.

 

Then how did the Jews sacrifice their children to idols in Jeremiah? God clearly tells us that he did not command the Jews to do this, so how did it happen?

Jer 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

Did God lie when he said he did not command the Jews to commit this sin? How did this sin occur if God did not command it?

Try answering this question for once, I have asked you this at least half a dozen times and you have NEVER even attempted to answer.

 

This has been answered several times ,yet you fail to grasp the answer.Do not say it was not answered.

 

It has not been answered in the past, and you have not answered it now.

How did the Jews sacrifice their children to idols if God never commanded it, and this sin did not come into his mind?

If you are not going to answer, then mind your own business.

 

Why Lie??? I answered this twice in one thread about 2-3 weeks ago...remember ... when you were calling me names?
Oh wait...you do that on every post now:laugh:

I pointed out how your response was completely un scriptural and un biblical.

So....it is my business to deal with impudent persons like you whenever you spue your vileness toward me....