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If the facts are wrong then it fails as a good argument. Take it any way you want. I'll try not to give you any more constructive criticism in the future. Just so you know.

 

Right on brother!

Keep to your monologue then and God bless ya'.

 

We defend our President...with guns.
We defend our Congressmen...with guns.
We defend our Governors...with guns.
We defend our celebrities...with guns.
We defend our sporting events...with guns.
We defend our jewelry stores...with guns.
We defend our banks...with guns.
We defend our office buildings...with guns.
We defend our factories...with guns.
We defend our courts...with guns.

We defend our children...with a sign that reads;

"THIS IS A GUN FREE ZONE"

 

Well said, my friend!!!

 

Just a thought from a gun lover and hunter:

I don't need assault weapons, semi automatics, or high capacity clips to hunt. Most places those are banned for hunting anyway.

We may need armed guards in schools, malls, etc, but please for heaven's sake don't just assume everyone packing heat has the brain power to protect the innocents.

More likely some of the "idjit" variety would kill more innocent bystanders than the thorough going bad guy would.

 

I wonder if the families, particularly the parents of the Newton children would agree with your view point. <--- pure rhetoric on my part.

I doubt there's a sane parent in the sane world that would rather bury their child than help them deal with injuries and disfigurements, both of which can be lived with and in many cases, overcome.

PTSD can be dealt with, lived with and in many case, overcome, where as death is final.

Seek help.

 

Also, this is very similar "logic" to that of people who justify some abortions. Why bring a child into the world that might have a hard life or that might be unwanted?

Not a perfect analogy but close enough to be sickening. Sorry to be so harsh today. There are times my iron needs sharpening too.

 

What was the topic again?

 

You must live in the wrong place. I know many places to hunt. One of the things the NRA is big on is gun education. The people that guard the president are no smarter than I am. If I see a bad guy shooting good guys, I know who to shoot.

 

I know this has been mentioned many times but I want to say again, the 2nd amendment and hunting are two completely different issues.

There is no "right to hunt" in the constitution. Hunting has been prohibited and controlled many times and in many ways. Seasons, bag limits, and even outright bans are completely legal. Hunting is a smart management choice when it comes to game populations and without it most of our deer, turkeys, and other species would be endangered. But controlling hunting is a key to keeping healthy populations.

The right to bear arms is in the constitution and has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with protection of our lives and liberty.

 

I hear you brother, good point. Now we have to figure out how to stop all the Presidential attacks on our Constitution, something he has sworn to defend, but seems determined to destroy. He has shown he has no honor by not taking responsibility for the loss of American lives that were hung out to dry, and that is a slap in the face to all of us who have, and are serving honorably in the service for this country. I can't adequately describe how despicable it is to me.

 

By all means, continue to question or doubt my salvation condition and Christian standing. It's against board rules, you've done the same before and will do so again, I am sure. That certainly doesn't bother me or change my eternal position. Also, feel free to assume that you have the right and wrong definitions of death.

The fact that I disagree with you does not equate to my eternal damnation either.

Define PTSD the way you understand it. I'll be happy to answer with details as long as we're working from the same baseline. Otherwise, I'll avoid that blind alley.

 

I'm happy to accept that all twenty of those children are or may be in eternity with God. I trust in God as the ultimate judge of the soul.

Again, I'll emphasize the point that I believe that the parents of those deceased would probably argue with your point that; "The children the Newtown shooter killed are much better off than the children hacked with the hatchet in China."

Do you also believe that death in hell is as eternal as life in God's prescience is?

As to your "speculation" about the numbers of saved, only 2% or less than;

In my home church, it's membership of about 400, (active is all I'll concern myself with here) your formula would allow for only our four pastors and maybe three of their four wives to be saved. That small number from the entire body. None of their children, grandchildren, extended families, no one else if the statistics are correct. So that must assume that those saved shepherds of God are absolutely ineffective at performing their roles in the Great Commission. I'm going out on a limb here and hoping that my home church is a statistical anomaly and will say that maybe a whopping 4% (that's a 100% increase) were saved, that would mean realistically the fundamentalist church down the road had 0% saved. Or pick another somewhere else.

All that to say that I strongly disagree with your stats. The dimensions of the New Heaven alone (I have my own personal mansion in there somewhere) evidence a vast, unimaginable multitude that would far exceed any that your numbers, speculative or not, give the lie to.

 

About that yeah;

Wayne LaPierre said it best, "The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun."

And then what you said, I absolutely agree with,

"I know this has been mentioned many times but I want to say again, the 2nd amendment and hunting are two completely different issues.

There is no "right to hunt" in the constitution. Hunting has been prohibited and controlled many times and in many ways. Seasons, bag limits, and even outright bans are completely legal. Hunting is a smart management choice when it comes to game populations and without it most of our deer, turkeys, and other species would be endangered. But controlling hunting is a key to keeping healthy populations.

The right to bear arms is in the constitution and has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with protection of our lives and liberty."


But all of that is shouting down the well when fascist tyrants run our bureaucracies. This definitely isn't the same country that I was born in.

 

No shortage of locations to hunt here either, but you cannot hunt with the guns being discussed for control.

Here it is the hunters raising a ruckus over taking them away from them, hence the hunting comment.

We have a lot of people carrying guns here. You need a permit to conceal it, but you do see people down at the filling station with a gun on their hip.

What I am saying is that before we all just go out armed to the teeth and think that makes us safe, we better be well prepared to insist on meaningful education of those armed people.

My former son in law was a cop. Cannot tell you how often people "think" they could handle a situation, then panic like Barney Fife when it comes time to actually use a gun.