Featured Christian Profanity

You are not paying attention to what I am saying. Regardless of whether or not the use of that kind of language is a sin your argument that is acceptable to God, up to this point, has been strictly made using fallacies.

In other words even if one agrees with you that an argument cannot be made that it is wrong, your arguments are still founded on fallacies. And through the use of my sources I have proven that whether you want to believe it or not.

 

What things that are not at all sin does God find unacceptable?

No. All fallacies do not apply to all arguments. Do you not know that?

For example, a jury is told that the accused is innocent until PROVEN guilty by the prosecution.

His innocence, by your thought that every fallacy applies to every argument, is built on FALLACIES.

EVEN IF HE IS INNOCENT your thinking says that his innocence is built on fallacies.

Now, three times you have avoided this question like the plague just as I predicted.

Do you believe wearing blue jeans is a sin?

You have proven that you do not know how to employ the definitions of fallacies.

You have proven that you do not understand that not every fallacy is truly a fallacy in every argument.

That is all you have proven.

 

The term, "Christian Profanity" is an oxymoron!

Frankly when I hear someone using profanity I chalk it up to ignorance and a limited vocabulary.

 

The term, "Christian Profanity" is an oxymoron!

Frankly when I hear someone using profanity I chalk it up to ignorance and a limited vocabulary ... as well as no or little self-control.

 

:thumbsup: Well said.

I'm reminded of the famous scene in Cyrano de Bergerac where an enemy tries to pick a fight with Cyrano in Act 1, so he insults his nose:"Monsieur, your nose... your nose is rather large." Cyrano mocks him with much more effective insults he could have used (with no taboo words):


"Oh, no, young sir. You are too simple. Why, you might have said a great many things. Why waste your opportunity? For example, thus:

• Aggressive: I, sir, if that nose were mine, I'd have it amputated on the spot.
• Practical: How do you drink with such a nose? You must have had a cup made especially.
• Descriptive: 'Tis a rock, a crag, a cape! A cape? Say rather, a peninsula!
• Inquisitive: What is that receptacle? A razor case or a portfolio?
• Kindly: Ah, do you love the little birds so much that when they come to see you, you give them this to perch on.
• Cautious: Take care! A weight like that might make you top-heavy.
• Eloquent: When it blows, the typhoon howls, and the clouds darken!
• Dramatic: When it bleeds, the Red Sea.
• Simple: When do they unveil the monument?
• Military: Beware, a secret weapon.
• Enterprising: What a sign for some perfumer!
• Respectful: Sir, I recognize in you a man of parts. A man of... prominence! Or...
• Literary: Was this the nose that launched a thousand ships?

They then have a sword fight as Cyrano composes a poem, with "Thrust home" as the last line--which Cyrano then does.

 

I find you to be crude and unimpressive in your Greek here. You have created an archaism by trying to transplant a taboo English idiom into Koine Greek.

You are correct in that taboo language is driven by culture. But that doesn't give us spiritual license to use it. I once saw a Japanese commercial with two cute little boys using a certain word. I then used it in a sermon, because how could it be taboo with cute little boys using it right there on TV? Afterwords a mature Japanese believer rebuked me for using inappropriate language. She was offended, and rightly so. I never again used that word in any situation.

Every time you swear, you will offend not just believers, but unbelievers who didn't know Christians talked like that. The office of pastor/preacher, called by God, is so sacred, that surely we who hold it should speak with dignity and circumspection. If it is doubtful, don't.

How can you excuse swearing for a Christian in the light of this? "Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man." Swearing an potty words are not gracious speech, in any language.

By the way, you haven't yet interacted with my discussion of the semantics of skubalon. I'm sure you know Greek well enough to do so.

P. S. What is this "to avoid the appearance of ignorance"? How is that a proper motive for any type of speech whatsoever?

 

What about the word bloody which the British people consider a vulgar word, which has no vulgar meaning in America. In TN. a lot of people own hunting dogs. If i was to call my neighbor up on the telephone and make a statement, you have a bunch of bloody dogs out in your kennel, he would probably drop the phone and rush out to see if his dogs had been in a fight. If i made that same statement in England i would probably get cussed out. So i guess the point is, when in Rome do as the Romans do.

 

In all translations I checked, the word skubalon is translated "loss". Where did this idea come from that it means fecal matter?

 

Well, do you keep your fecal matter, or lose it when you flush? LOL :tongue3:

 

I honestly don't think that the words "s" "d" "h", etc are cuss words as pertaining to the scriptures. But it does shed a negative light to those who are on the outside, and will offend our fellow believers. Shedding light upon the lost is hard enough without giving them something that they can "cover their mouth with one hand, and point at us with the other", imo.

 

Not gonna go there brother. :laugh:

 

:thumbs: I wonder how many who are outside the Faith have discounted it because of the language of some Christians. Most don't care about Greek translations or drawn-out arguments about what is or is not included on the list of Biblically approved words. People have a sense of what is acceptable speech and what is not.

It seems sad to me, especially with the Scripture pointed out, that some here continue to justify the use of profanity.

 

I'm looking at Phil 3:8.

Niv: What is more, I consider everything a loss

ESV: Indeed, I count everything as loss

NASB: More than that, I count all things to be loss

RSV: Indeed I count everything as loss

ASV: Yea verily, and I count all things to be loss

YLT: yes, indeed, and I count all things to be loss

Darby: But surely I count also all things to be loss

WEB: Yes doubtless, and I count all things [to be] loss

HNV: Yes most assuredly, and I count all things to be loss


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