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Two consecutive sacrilegious posts. Interesting. All this offered gregariously or in jest toward a lost man.

Yes. We should make jest against soteriological truth according to both of you.

Congrats!

 

Oh brother, another person who believes we inherit a sin nature through our genes from Adam.

This is proven false by Jesus Christ himself, the scriptures say he was "made" of the "seed" of David "according to the flesh".

Rom 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Paul also showed that Jesus shared the same flesh as the Jews;

Rom 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

The "of whom" in verse 5 points directly back to "the fathers" showing Jesus was physically descended from his Jewish fathers according to the flesh.

So, this belief that sin is inherited through the flesh or genes is nothing but a superstition that goes directly against scripture.

 

Yes, it is said that you can breed every type of dog from a pair of wolves, likewise, all races of men came from Adam and Eve.

More than likely what truly caused the different races we see today is when everyone separated by language at the tower of Babel. Men separated into tribes and interbred with those of the same language. Some traits became dominant over time.

 

Winman, how did "some traits" become "dominant" over time?

 

:thumbs::thumbs:

 

Well, I am not expert on genetics or any of this stuff, but if black people bred with black people, in time it would seem reasonable that certain traits might become dominant, the same with white people, yellow, whatever...

Language would also tend to reduce the gene pool. Generally speaking, you notice that some nations are a little shorter, such as the French or Scots. I have noticed that many people from eastern Europe such as Poland tend to be very tall. People from Columbia, Peru, or Ecuador tend to be very short. This is from interbreeding over long centuries with people of like language.

Today everyone is coming back together into one pool, there is much interracial marriage and everything is sifting out (for lack of a better word).

 

You tell me. Scripture is silent about it. However, GOD said 'after their own kind'.

 

There were some things prohibited from the beginning, and, given the strong "taboo" against incest among people who've never hearda God, then incest between parent & child, and between full siblings musta been one of them. This "taboo" is at least as strong among those people as is the one against murder. many of these peoples wouldn't think twice about killing someone not of their people, but wouldn't kill one of their own. And, of course, we know murder was a sin from the gitgo.

 

Well, it wasn't outright incest.

 

Here is an interesting chart showing average male height by country. I was wrong, the tallest people seem to be northern Europeans.


Countries Height (cm) Height (in) Population
Netherlands 181,0 5’11.3″ 16,318,199
Iceland 179,8 5’10.8″ 319,355
Norway 179,7 5’10.7″ 4,737,171
Sweden 179,3 5’10.6″ 8,986,400
Denmark 178,8 5’10.4″ 5,413,392
Finland 178,4 5’10.2″ 5,214,512
Czech Republic 178,3 5’10.2″ 10,246,178
Slovenia 178,1 5’10.1″ 2,007,711
Luxembourg 178,0 5’10.1″ 486,006
Croatia 177,6 5’9.9″ 4,496,869
Germany 177,4 5’9.8″ 82,424,609
Estonia 177,1 5’9.7″ 1,307,605
Austria 177,0 5’9.7″ 8,174,762
Belgium 176,6 5’9.5″ 10,348,276
Serbia 176,5 5’9.5″ 10,159,046
Switzerland 176,5 5’9.5″ 7,450,867
United States 176,4 5’9.4″ 293,027,571
Australia 176,3 5’9.4″ 19,913,144
Poland 176,0 5’9.3″ 38,626,349
Greece 175,7 5’9.2″ 10,647,529
New Zealand 175,5 5’9.1″ 3,993,817
United Kingdom 175,4 5’9.1″ 60,270,708
Hungary 175,3 5’9″ 10,106,017
Ukraine 175,0 5’8.9″ 47,732,079
Ireland 175,0 5’8.9″ 3,969,558
Russia 175,0 5’8.9″ 143,782,338
Israel 175,0 5’8.9″ 7,112,359
Lithuania 175,0 5’8.9″ 3,565,205
Canada 174,3 5’8.6″ 32,507,874
Lebanon 174,2 5’8.6″ 3,777,218
Turkey 174,1 5’8.5″ 68,893,918
France 174,1 5’8.5″ 60,424,213
Uzbekistan 173,4 5’8.3″ 26,410,416
Italy 173,2 5’8.2″ 58,057,477
Senegal 173,0 5’8.1″ 10,852,147
Jamaica 172,8 5’8″ 2,804,332
Mali 172,5 5’7.9″ 12,324,029
Spain 172,0 5’7.7″ 40,280,780
Romania 172,0 5’7.7″ 22,355,551
Azerbaijan 172,0 5’7.7″ 8,177,717
Uruguay 171,8 5’7.6″ 3,399,237
Argentina 171,3 5’7.4″ 39,144,753
South Korea 171,0 5’7.3″ 48,598,175
Syria 171,0 5’7.3″ 18,016,874
Morocco 170,7 5’7.2″ 32,209,101
Iran 170,6 5’7.2″ 67,503,205
Portugal 170,5 5’7.1″ 10,524,145
Côte d’Ivoire 170,4 5’7.1″ 18,373,060
Egypt 170,3 5’7″ 76,117,421
Tunisia 170,3 5’7″ 9,974,722
Algeria 170,2 5’7″ 32,129,324
South Africa 170,0 5’6.9″ 42,718,530
Cameroon 170,0 5’6.9″ 16,063,678
Gambia 170,0 5’6.9″ 1,735,464
Ghana 169,8 5’6.9″ 23,382,848
Brazil 169,5 5’6.7″ 184,101,109
Colombia 169,5 5’6.7″ 42,310,775
Taiwan 169,3 5’6.7″ 22,920,946
Chile 169,2 5’6.6″ 15,823,957
Venezuela 169,0 5’6.5″ 23,542,649
Paraguay 169,0 5’6.5″ 6,191,368
Japan 168,6 5’6.4″ 127,333,002
Hong Kong 168,5 5’6.3″ 7,210,505
China 168,3 5’6.3″ 1,298,847,624
Mexico 167,5 5’5.9″ 104,959,594
Pakistan 167,0 5’5.7″ 159,196,336
Singapore 166,6 5’5.6″ 4,353,893
Thailand 166,4 5’5.5″ 64,865,523
Mongolia 166,4 5’5.5″ 2,751,314
Malaysia 166,0 5’5.4″ 23,522,482
Sri Lanka 166,0 5’5.4″ 20,064,776
Malawi 166,0 5’5.4″ 13,931,831
Bahrain 165,6 5’5.2″ 718,306
Iraq 165,4 5’5.1″ 25,374,691
Nigeria 165,0 5’5″ 138,283,240
Peru 164,3 5’4.7″ 27,544,305
North Korea 163,8 5’4.5″ 22,697,553
India 162,3 5’3.9″ 1,065,070,607
Vietnam 162,1 5’3.8″ 82,689,518
Philippines 162,0 5’3.8″ 86,241,697
Indonesia 161,5 5’3.6″ 238,452,952
Cambodia 160,3 5’3.1″ 13,363,421

 

No, he DIDN'T.

Then, what IS?

Yes, He DID. While "You shall not murder" wasn't written that we know of before God gave Moses the Decalogue, but we see Moses condemned by the Egyptians for killing an Egyptian, as well as the case oc Cain.

 

Evidently He HAD, as Cain acted guilty when God asked him where Abel was. (Genesis4)

While Moses was defending a helpless Israeli from the Egyptian's beating, the Egyptians considered the slaying a MURDER. So, there WERE laws against murder, both God's and man's.

 

OK, YOU tell us how he made them.

 

I've read all that stuff, B4L. Truth is, even if Cain had married a niece, the same prob had arisen for ALL of A&E's children. They HAD to hace spouses from somewhere besides each other!

So, you're backta Square One...and I'm still open to an explanation that DOESN'T INVOLVE INCEST.

Either GOD CHANGES, or He has NEVER condoned incest between full siblings! And I BELIEVE GOD when He sez He is UNCHANGING.

 

It is obvious that men often married members of their own family in ancient days, the scriptures say so;

Exo 6:20 And Amram took him Jochebed his father's sister to wife; and she bare him Aaron and Moses: and the years of the life of Amram were an hundred and thirty and seven years.

This fellow Amram married his aunt, his father's sister, and this is where both Aaron and Moses came from.

 

I believe that average size is often affected by climate and food supply over time. For example, the first horses were the size of a Collie, and had all three toes reaching the ground. Food for them was more-scarce than it was later on.

The Japanese have never had an over-abundance of food; hence they tend , on an average, to be smaller than we Americans. And we've outpaced most of our British brethren as well.

Of course there are exceptions. The Japanese WW2 Admiral Ozawa was SIX FEET, SEVEN INCHES TALL! A And we've all seen 400-LB Sumo wrestlers.

But OTOH, the tall, powerful Eastern Europeans haven't been exactly swimming in food for a good while. But we don't know what they mighta had in ancient times.

Of large, modern nations, it seems BRAZIL is the most-interracial one around. (Correct me if I'm wrong!)

 

I don't doubt that for one nanosecond. Other examples are Isaac and Jacob. But NONE wed his FULL SIBLING!