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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Benjamin, Jun 19, 2013.

  1. HisWitness

    HisWitness New Member

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    that's your right to disagree brother

    its my right to disagree with you also

    Blessings to you brother :):)
     
  2. HisWitness

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    also you state the clear teachings--there is NO clear teaching of the event of a fallen angel named Satan ever sinning against God

    you try to use scriptures and throw him in when the scriptures does NO such thing--you take them all out of context to try and prove your view.
     
  3. agedman

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    I will repeat.

    YOU have been shown Scripture, you reject the truth of Scripture.

    THAT is the VERY point of my last post and the deceitfulness of the view.

    That you persist in the deceit is sad.

    For example, If one is to be factually honest in holding this view then it could be held as only allegory and illusion that Christ actually died on the cross, for how can one believe a fanciful story such as being raised from the dead? He must have just swooned, and passed out from lack of blood. Then those silly disciples surely stole the body away to recuperate. They wanted to propagate a new religion and undermine the religious traditions of the elders so they could overthrow the world. Of course the women were in on it, and is why they held secret meetings in that upper room with the door locked. It was all a mater of saving face, getting noticed, known and popular.

    Now I know you would say that such is preposterous, but then prove to me that it isn't true. Outside of the Bible, there is no proof of the resurrection, and no proof of the illiterate disciples as being trustworthy. And if the Bible is full of myth and fantasy, then what is really factual?

    Using YOUR view of Scriptures, questions the whole Biblical authority - and that is the same lie Satan used (oops you think it was Adam) in deceiving Eve. God is keeping something from you, don't you really want to know the rest of the story and be equal with God?
     
  4. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member
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    Read the below “riddle” carefully in regards to – “as defined by Christian tradition”.

    #12 of, yes, 13.;) “We do not accept the concept of absolute evil, nor do we worship any entity known as ‘Satan’ or ‘the Devil’ as defined by Christian tradition.”

    Sound familiar? Now regarding, “what is in a (N)name?” and the "origins of Satan":

    “While modern day believers recoil at the suggestion that their "Satan" is a god, what is in a name, for they attribute to him all the attributes of deity?”

    Sound familiar? = “what a shame that the people of God keep honoring and praising and giving glory and power to some false god that doesn't exist” ~ HisWitness

    “HisWitness” first gave himself away with this kind of talk:

    “Satan is not a name but a word—“ Post #11 after the red flag post #5.

    This is a kind of play on the “Name” of God = or IOW's who is God.

    He has his own "special" version of who Satan is…

    He concludes we worship a “false” Satan…

    He believes the “Church” is full of false doctrines especially pertaining to Satan…(for good reason - if you know what I mean!)

    I don’t know the exact sect of his religion, but I’ve ran into some of at least a very similar clan and what I learned of their origins is – not good!

    John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
     
  5. convicted1

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    AHA!!!!!!!!!! I knew if you were given enough rope, you'd hang yourself. You just advocated the "serpent seed" doctrine!! I was really leaning hard in that you were espousing it, but right here seals it.

    So, we have a "mixed-bag of false doctrines" person on here, and he's STILL allowed to push this?
     
  6. salzer mtn

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    Paul said in 1 Cor 15:32 If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts of Ephesus, meaning in a figurative expression, that the beasts intended were men of a fierce and ferine disposition controlled by Satan. Eph 6:11-13 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God that ye may be able to WITHSTAND in the EVIL DAY, and having done all, to stand. Paul speaks of a evil day or days that Satan ups his attacks on those Christians that are nearest to the kingdom of God whether through old age or new birth or desiring a closer communion with the Lord.
     
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  7. HisWitness

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    you speak utter foolishness-theres complete evidence of Christ in the bible--theres NO complete evidence of a angel named Satan ever sinning--im not rejecting bible--im rejecting your nonsense brother:jesus::jesus:
     
  8. HisWitness

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    I do not hold to the serpent seed doctrine at all
    I believe Adam was the serpent .
     
  9. HisWitness

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    that is clearly your speculation--I could also enter in that the High priest and his angels were the very grp he was talking about here--they were the arch enemy of Christ and the church in that time-
     
  10. HisWitness

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    lets discuss peter---he was called Satan--did satan enter him and take control--can Satan possess saints and take control of them ???

    you say that Satan is the same angelic entity every time the word is used in the new testament--pls explain away the event with peter if you will ???
     
  11. Amy.G

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    Who or what has "shown" you??
     
  12. HisWitness

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    Men's wickedness is behind the world's evil not a fallen angelic being.
     
  13. HisWitness

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     
  14. Amy.G

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    Who has "shown" you this? That was my question!
     
  15. HisWitness

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    God has amy--but im sure you will find something negative to say :jesus:
     
  16. HisWitness

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    Amy what do you think about the peter event when he was called satan ?

    did satan possess peter and take his voice over--can satan possess and take over the saints of god--what happened here ??
     
  17. Amy.G

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    No He didn't. Not the God of the Bible. You have twisted it beyond recognition.
     
  18. HisWitness

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    Amy--no where in the bible does it say
    that Satan is a fallen angelic being at all--NO scripture relates to that

    that is purely a man made traditional view--again there is NO scripture which states that event even took place.

    pls answer the peter post pls :godisgood::godisgood:
     
  19. Gorship

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    HisWitness, you never answered my questions. Please just a yes or a no.

    Do you agree with Trinitarian Theology?

    [​IMG]

    Yes or No will suffice


    Do you agree with the Athanasian Creed?

    http://www.wretchedradio.com/pdf/Athanasian_Creed.pdf

    Yes or No is more than plenty.

    Thanks :)
     
  20. HisWitness

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    I believe in the trinity--God the Father,Son,Spirit--
     
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