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Joel believe Steve Jobs went to Heaven....for real!

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Jedi Knight

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This morning Joel Osteen on TV tells that Steve Jobs was into Buddhism after he ditched church at age 13. Joel went on to say that Steve on his death bed said "wow,wow,wow"before passing away which Joel says,"I cannot be sure but seems to me he went to Heaven." His whole message was about don't judge and God is God of Christians, Muslims, Athiest, ect. He mixes some truth with Universalism and come out with a smile as he say it.
 

agedman

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This morning Joel Osteen on TV tells that Steve Jobs was into Buddhism after he ditched church at age 13. Joel went on to say that Steve on his death bed said "wow,wow,wow"before passing away which Joel says,"I cannot be sure but seems to me he went to Heaven." His whole message was about don't judge and God is God of Christians, Muslims, Athiest, ect. He mixes some truth with Universalism and come out with a smile as he say it.

Perhaps Jobs wasn't saying "wow, wow, wow," but saying "ow, ow, ow."
 

HungryInherit

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Well from what I've read he was raised Lutheran and saved and baptized at an early age. I don't believe you can lose your salvation, so I believe if he believed in Christ at that time he is surely in heaven. And I don't care a thing about what that snake Osteen says
 

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Well from what I've read he was raised Lutheran and saved and baptized at an early age. I don't believe you can lose your salvation, so I believe if he believed in Christ at that time he is surely in heaven. And I don't care a thing about what that snake Osteen says

He was a false convert and made a profession of faith but did not mean it. Judas also made a profession but was false.
 

annsni

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Well from what I've read he was raised Lutheran and saved and baptized at an early age. I don't believe you can lose your salvation, so I believe if he believed in Christ at that time he is surely in heaven. And I don't care a thing about what that snake Osteen says

Does a saved person convert to and follow Buddhism?
 

Salty

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He was a false convert and made a profession of faith ...
E-6 - That is an oxymoron


Well from what I've read he was raised Lutheran and saved and baptized at an early age. I don't believe you can lose your salvation, so I believe if he believed in Christ at that time he is surely in heaven. And I don't care a thing about what that snake Osteen says

Does a saved person convert to and follow Buddhism?

And that is the reason I use caution when a young person says they accepted the Lord.
 

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He was a false convert and made a profession of faith but did not mean it. Judas also made a profession but was false.

How anyone can say what another man believes or knows in their mind is beyond me. The father of lies can influence believers. Fact is we don't know, even if the evidence points to him being lost. Stop with the emphatic judgement.
 

quantumfaith

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How anyone can say what another man believes or knows in their mind is beyond me. The father of lies can influence believers. Fact is we don't know, even if the evidence points to him being lost. Stop with the emphatic judgement.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
 

evangelist6589

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How anyone can say what another man believes or knows in their mind is beyond me. The father of lies can influence believers. Fact is we don't know, even if the evidence points to him being lost. Stop with the emphatic judgement.

No I start with the Bible and what it teaches and it clearly says in John 14:6 that Jesus is the only way, and it clearly says that without Christ all are headed to Hell. It also says that Buddhisim is another gospel and is condemned (Gal 1:8ff). You claim to be a student of David Jeremiah yet seem to have missed what he teaches.
 

evangelist6589

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Question answered

All of the questions here abut Steve Jobs have been answered in the Bible and this is an excellent devotional addressing this. Click on the link and see for yourself. Was Steve Jobs a true believer or not?

http://www.wayofthemasterminute.com

Sunday, October 27, 2013
The Man in the Rowboat

A man in a rowboat once found himself caught in fast-moving water, heading for massive waterfall with jagged rocks 150 feet below. A passerby saw him rowing against the current, but his efforts were futile. Minute by minute the man in the rowboat was drawn closer and closer to the roaring falls. The passerby ran to his car, grabbed a rope from the trunk, and threw it to the boat. When it fell across the bow, he screamed, "Grab the rope! I'll pull you to the shore!" He couldn't believe his eyes. The man took no notice. He just kept rowing frantically against the current until he was sucked over the falls to his death. Therein lies the difference between being a Christian and being religious. For someone to be saved, he must cease his own religious labors, and trust alone in Jesus. There goes another minute. Gone forever. Go share your faith while you still have time.
 

Jedi Knight

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First Joel is saying "don't judge" BUT he does judge by saying he think he went to Heaven? Hello! Also Jesus said his sheep will by no mean follow a stranger IN FACT they will run away because they do not recognize a strangers voice. John 10:5
 

preacher4truth

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Does a saved person convert to and follow Buddhism?

Absolutely! They can convert to Islam, JW, New Age, and live a lifestyle of sin, you name it! In fact a preacher told me this is OK and it doesn't matter, say a prayer, and you're in, and that there needs to be no evidence whatsoever because 'Jesus can't lie' (Romans 10:13) so what they do afterwards is inconsequential. That is what is being preached these days, and this in an SBC church.
 

preacher4truth

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John 14:6-Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me

Acts 4:12-Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0wz8nVcvuI

He's thumbing false doctrine. This he does all day long. What he is thumbing is basically the carnal ideology of 'don't judge', when in fact Paul gave us signs of the professing lost in the church, and we can, in fact make 'emphatic' judgments, and are called upon to do so. To further the case, we are also told to judge ourselves as well, 2 Cor. 13:5, 2 Peter 1:10.

Keep the faith and continue to fight for it bro. :thumbs:
 

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He's thumbing false doctrine. This he does all day long. What he is thumbing is basically the carnal ideology of 'don't judge', when in fact Paul gave us signs of the professing lost in the church, and we can, in fact make 'emphatic' judgments, and are called upon to do so. To further the case, we are also told to judge ourselves as well, 2 Cor. 13:5, 2 Peter 1:10. N

Keep the faith and continue to fight for it bro. :thumbs:

If you have something to address with me or someone else reply directly to us instead. Be a man, not a coward. Your passive / aggressive behavior is lame...and tiresome.

The moment technology allows anyone to crawl into the mind of another, let me know. Its ironic you quote Corinthians...the church of true believers acting like unsaved, carnal men.
 

webdog

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No I start with the Bible and what it teaches and it clearly says in John 14:6 that Jesus is the only way, and it clearly says that without Christ all are headed to Hell. It also says that Buddhisim is another gospel and is condemned (Gal 1:8ff). You claim to be a student of David Jeremiah yet seem to have missed what he teaches.
I agree wholeheartedly with John 14:6.

I also agree Buddhism is a false religion.

I disagree with your supernatural claim to know precisely what he believed and where he is at this moment. I never claim to be deity, you shouldn't either. Only God knows this mans heart. You don't.

Not sure what David Jeremiah has to do with anything.
 
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