Went to a Reformed Church tonight

[Rippon]

But I have good fellowship with Christians in all walks of life

You just don't want to be in church with them. That's inconsistent.

....just not your ilk.

Flail away.

I could give a fig what your opinion is nor frankly have I ever ever cared.

That's a falsehood.I have kept a record of your PMs to me of the past which stands in stark contrast to your present protestations.

So stick that one in your "manipulation via guilt" agenda / action plan & smoke it.

Is the above something Dr.D-M-L-J or George Whitefield would say? Straighten up and fly right --as Nate King Cole sang.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

You just don't want to be in church with them. That's inconsistent.

Flail away.

That's a falsehood.I have kept a record of your PMs to me of the past which stands in stark contrast to your present protestations.


Is the above something Dr.D-M-L-J or George Whitefield would say? Straighten up and fly right --as Nate King Cole sang.

He also sang.....Roll out those lazy, crazy, hazy days of summer......those days of soda and pretzels and beer. NOTE I like lager ...:saint:

 

[pinoybaptist]

Please ... we all know where this is going. Stop before you tick one another off.

not to say you didn't sound out the warning, bro....lol...:smilewinkgrin:

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

not to say you didn't sound out the warning, bro....lol...:smilewinkgrin:

Lotta good it did, huh, bro? :tongue3:

 

[Iconoclast]

Rippon

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Originally Posted by Earth, Wind & Fire View Post
This is exactly the reason I cant stand organized churches.

Naaa.......I'm more apt to burn the place down. I don't do good around churches or church people.

This is exactly the reason I cant stand organized churches. I'm right and your wrong attitudes vs what did Christ really teach. We really don't want to go there....then we would have to witness to it and indeed, radically change our lives and God forbid we do that.

So....do you love me yet

I have no "Splaining" to do to you .....you aint God, not even close.

More people have been hurt by church people who act like little tin gods while not following the true Gods commandments than I could possibly ever count......so who the heck made them Gods minions......indeed, it is more of a hypocritical circus event than a true communion .....and I am tired of it.

This is not God..... its righteous jerks acting out their holier than though attitudes & they will answer for it.
From your vantage point ...... please get serious. All Ive been observing out of you is behavior quite similar to that of a Pharisee.

But I have good fellowship with Christians in all walks of life ....just not your ilk. And basically I could give a fig what your opinion is nor frankly have I ever ever cared.
But even in your own rantings you do have something noteworthy to discuss...... that is, often times heathens are more virtuous than .....

I wont call them ecclesia, rather I will call them by what they truly are; 'carnal false christians.' The non believer will at least admit that he or she is a non believer while the false christian will always play mind games, telling everyone they meet that they are good solid Christians when we all know better. They sit in the pews, sing songs then go on their merry way lying & cheating & sinning their butts off till next Sunday & then they are all God Fearing Christians again.

No, Im not happy with that activity, that in fact is the biggest sin against the Holy Spirit that can be perpetuated. Yet it is the standard operating condition in most false churches today. I refuse to participate! So stick that one in your "manipulation via guilt" agenda / action plan & smoke it.
__________________NOTE I like lager ...

EWF....

Many are saying the same things to you.Christ loved His church and gave Himself for it. You do not seem to grasp that. Yes ...we know there is apostasy...but that is not really the CHURCH ...is it???

You wander into apostate churches and wonder that they do not believe scripture???

I think this was offered to be helpful.No one is singling you out...but many have observed the same thing....from this thread alone;;;;

Aren't you being cute. I simply asked why you don't want to be around church people i.e. Christians. Believers in the Lord Jesus usually want to be around fellow Christians.

I thought it wasn't necessary to quote your immature rant. So you don't want to fellowship with believers. You are a Christian but Christians in your view are nasty so where does that leave you EW&F? You want to just be with heathens because they are more virtuous than the ecclesia?

You really have been on a downward spiral in the last year or so. It is not a pretty sight.[/B]

The problem is that is not an option, according to scripture, to just avoid it. And it is in error to think that somehow your flaws are less than the other people in "organized religion" therefore you should not have to put up with them.


In every church there is always room for one more hypocrite.

So, Free Will Baptist churches are bad. You just wrote off the original Baptists in England.

I feel honored to know what you feel about our church.

When we teach what Christ really taught this is inevitable. You can call it an attitude if you want, but from what I've read about your opinion of His bride I'd say you're the one with the attitude.

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As Ricky Ricardo would say;"You have a lot of splain' to do."

You're a Christian, but you don't do too well around church people. That doesn't square.
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You just don't want to be in church with them. That's inconsistent.

That's a falsehood.I have kept a record of your PMs to me of the past which stands in stark contrast to your present protestations.

We are told this;

21 And the eye is not able to say to the hand, I have no need of you, nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

22 But instead, there is [absolute] necessity for the parts of the body that are considered the more weak.

23 And those [parts] of the body which we consider rather ignoble are [the very parts] which we invest with additional honor, and our unseemly parts and those unsuitable for exposure are treated with seemliness (modesty and decorum),

24 Which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so adjusted (mingled, harmonized, and subtly proportioned the parts of) the whole body, giving the greater honor and richer endowment to the inferior parts which lack [apparent importance],

25 So that there should be no division or discord or lack of adaptation [of the parts of the body to each other], but the members all alike should have a mutual interest in and care for one another.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

But there is nothing but apostate churches in my area....so there you have it. I live in a community that is apostate. Yes. I can drive an hour or more but then it would not be community then would it? The lord has instructed me to stay here and make it grow here not Montville, not NYC, not Allentown...besides they have their own neighborhoods that are attended to. But not here...here is heroin alley ...here is streets of 3rd world illegals...here is working class getting crushed by no jobs & a lousy community. Its here where He wants me to make that difference...not some rich mans million dollar bedroom community ...and so I get depressed. Mostly for the apostate clubby gathering houses and antinomian places masquerading as churches ...they just sicken me. Is this the best the Lord has to offer??? Am I to participate in hyposty? Or should this place just burn to the ground? I feel like Jonah...not wanting to be here but having to be true and obedient I cannot cut and run. Nor can I sit under a female pastor nor can I not teach doctrine nor can I be an arminian nor can I give up on my God.

So now Tony, I will give it to you in my best street Jersey I have ........ "So you tell me what I Gotta do!" Cause I dont know no more.

 

[Iconoclast]

Ewf. All of us can understand you are facing a less than desirable environment. But God has you in thesituation. The Lord knows all about it.....What town are you actually in? There has to be something some group you are not yet aware of. Those who are posting in your direction sense a bitter or defeated kind of vibe.....that they do not want to see consume you.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Ewf. All of us can understand you are facing a less than desirable environment. But God has you in thesituation. The Lord knows all about it.....What town are you actually in? There has to be something some group you are not yet aware of. Those who are posting in your direction sense a bitter or defeated kind of vibe.....that they do not want to see consume you.

I know all the churches in my area Icono......Ive visited with or spoke to them all on the phone. Ive been here almost 57 years so your not finding anything I dont already know..... you'd be trying to cover the same area Ive twice or thrice canvased. With that said, I have an obligation to bring this area to Christ & my only concern is to get them to a sound church & again the only sound churches currently is Montville, Allentown PA or perhaps down in Flemington NJ......and all are well out of the area. In other words, this is a void area. Now what......well something needs to be built, planted, whatever. And so where is the church to do that?

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

... the only sound churches currently is Montville, Allentown PA or perhaps down in Flemington NJ......and all are well out of the area. In other words, this is a void area. Now what......well something needs to be built, planted, whatever. And so where is the church to do that?

What about contacting those three biblically sound churches and discussing a church plant?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

What about contacting those three biblically sound churches and discussing a church plant?

Already did that & the answer is Nope...thanks though for the offer. Gotta build a new one.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I was reminded the other day by family at dinner that I am a plain speaking kinda guy & ruff in delivery. The military was good about teachin that & my dad was a career guy (non com). Put me in mind of a movie I watched a while ago now.

Quotes for
Sgt. Maj. Basil Plumley (Character)
from We Were Soldiers (2002)

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[Rippon]

I was reminded the other day by family at dinner that I am a plain speaking kinda guy & ruff in delivery.

I thought the above was a prelude to an apology. But you went on to speak as if your crude language is a virtue.

 

[preacher4truth]

Rippon is correct.

Luke 6:43

Luke 6:45

Ephesians 4:29

It's not 'a plain speaking kind of guy' as if that were honorable. Instead of that, it's the above.

That feller in the car was correct and needs to repeat his message. It didn't take.

 

[preacher4truth]

I was reminded the other day by family at dinner that I am a plain speaking kinda guy & ruff in delivery. The military was good about teachin that & my dad was a career guy (non com). Put me in mind of a movie I watched a while ago now.

Quotes for
Sgt. Maj. Basil Plumley (Character)
from We Were Soldiers (2002)


[filth snipped]

I find it hard to believe this type of thing is overlooked these days on BB.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I thought the above was a prelude to an apology. But you went on to speak as if your crude language is a virtue.

Don't think......know

And you were looking for an appology? Really....for what?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I find it hard to believe this type of thing is overlooked these days on BB.

Oh....does itoffend you? Have you ever beenin the military?

 

[RIPP0NWV]

I find it hard to believe this type of thing is overlooked these days on BB.

I thought the above was a prelude to an apology. But you went on to speak as if your crude language is a virtue.

Not one soul on this board owes you an apology. Your hobby of creating dissention and hatred and then backing out is way beyond anything crude that could be said. What makes your case so difficult to deal with is the mixture of evil, hatred, ignorance and stupidity you exhibit every post.

 

[Winman]

Wife was out doing something and so I got to sneak to a Reformed church. The music was traditional, but with some contemporary tunes being sung. They had no guitar, drums, nor band. The preaching was excellent! Verse by verse and the style was like that of MacArthur. The eschatology is dispensational, yet Reformed in other areas so definitely like MacArthur. Preacher hit on Total depravity, Election, suffering, sin, lordship salvation, false converts, perseverance of the saints, human responsibility, etc. He also admitted he did not know all the answers on the issues of election and human responsibility, but we are not to divide from Arminian whom disagree. MacArthur has stomped Arminianism in his books, so he would not agree. However not everyone knows as much as Mac, and even examining my earlier open air sermons Arminianism can be found on my tongue. WinMan himself (the most vocal Arminian here) has agreed to this, and he is the expert Arminian. I also liked the church as I met a friend of the Way of the Master there which is good as WOTM friends are most likely hanging around in Reformed churches. I got into some debates at my last IFB church with some single women in the singles ministry over this issue whom were against Way of the Master evangelism.

Anyways it was good hearing Reformed Theology again.

OK John, time for me to pick on you.

First, thanks for the compliment, but I am not an expert on Arminianism, or anything thing else for that matter.

Second, don't sneak around on your wife. Wives have a type of radar, they KNOW when you sneak around. You will get caught, and she will make sure you are sorry. Just tell her you want to attend a Reformed church.

Alright, now the part that is going to get all the Reformed/Calvinist/DoG or whatever you want to be called all riled up. It is this part of your quote;

Preacher hit on Total depravity, Election, suffering, sin, lordship salvation, false converts, perseverance of the saints, human responsibility, etc.

OK, what's with all this? Don't you guys believe your own doctrine? I mean, in my church we do not have sermons on free will, or conditional salvation, we all know what we believe. We have sermons on practical Christianity, how to live as Christian. We are King James only, and we only preach that once every couple of years.

You guys remind me of Charismatics. Go to any Pentacostal church anywhere, and each week the sermon will be on Acts chapter 2 or 1 Corinthians. All they want to talk about is tongues, healings, and miracles every week. They gotta make sure everybody believes it.

You guys are the same, you have to keep hammering yourselves on Total Depravity, Election, Perseverance of the Saints, etc... It's like you guys are not even sure if you really believe this stuff yourself, so you gotta keep pushing it.

Anyway, quit sneaking around, wives don't like that. She will catch you, and you will be scrubbing the toilet.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

OK, what's with all this? Don't you guys believe your own doctrine? I mean, in my church we do not have sermons on free will, or conditional salvation, we all know what we believe. We have sermons on practical Christianity, how to live as Christian. We are King James only, and we only preach that once every couple of years.

You guys remind me of Charismatics. Go to any Pentacostal church anywhere, and each week the sermon will be on Acts chapter 2 or 1 Corinthians. All they want to talk about is tongues, healings, and miracles every week. They gotta make sure everybody believes it.

You guys are the same, you have to keep hammering yourselves on Total Depravity, Election, Perseverance of the Saints, etc... It's like you guys are not even sure if you really believe this stuff yourself, so you gotta keep pushing it.

Blah blah blah........any excuse to throw a punch wont go unused. Thats called obsessive compulsive. Tell ya what..... you go to your church & we will go to our church & if the charismatics want to do their thing, let them have at it. Its a free country, right.

 

[Winman]

Blah blah blah........any excuse to throw a punch wont go unused. Thats called obsessive compulsive. Tell ya what..... you go to your church & we will go to our church & if the charismatics want to do their thing, let them have at it. Its a free country, right.

Well, I was just trying to break up you and Rippon. Did you guys used to be married to each other?