Featured Calvinist Pastor Turns from Calvinism After 20 Years

In my heart of hearts ....

.....I am just blessed to see he hasn't turned away from God. A change in doctrine at a period in one's life is not unusual!

The man is still saved, and that is the big news to me!

With all the things he could have turned to, or away from, at least he didn't give up the pulpit for a confessional booth. Or, moved to Salt Lake and put on the funny underwear, while taking on several sister wives!

To me, and I expect to hear a few large gasps right now .... but to me, so what if he let Calvinism, he didn't leave the Lord, just a view that many don't agree with, but learn to live with!

 

As if it would say anything I hadn't read or heard before. :sleep:

 

Would say that he was steeped in presby reformed theology, which is not the same as reformed baptist, nor calvinistic baptist either...

 

Someone's got their "big boy" pants on I see...

 

Ahh, but the question is - do they freely choose to defy, or are they simply choosing in accordance with Divine Foreknowledge, or is their will altogether captive to where it was not their choice at all?

 

They chose to freely post, based upon the will of God that they would post there.

 

The OP. describes the truth that of course Calvinist will ridicule. I'm just a layman and in my opinion what you have described here is what is wrong with Calvinist thinking. The Bible is a text that has to be studied as a whole. We can make any book say anything we want it to one sentence at a time. One from the front and then one from the back.
MB

 

Think that ther basic belief of calvinism that seems to get some in an uproar is that as sinners, we cannot come to God in order to get saved even, that we are dependent upon him even for that!

 

Yea....he isn't an aethiest.

 

That isn't so. All men are drawn to the Lord, because He was lifted up (JN, 12:32). If all men are drawn all men can come to Christ. Just because most won't come doesn't mean they can't.

(Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. )

Sinners can come to Him if they are drawn. Jn. 12 :32 says all men are drawn. Men are not prevented from coming to Him.
To understand scripture we have to study it as a whole. we can't just leave out what we may not agree with.
MB

 

Swell. Still doesn't change the fact that Arminianism and the Finnyism and synergism that accompanies it is Unbiblical.

 

If somebody based their doctrine on my testimony, I'd be the first one to correct them and tell them to base their doctrine on God's Word, not my words.

 

Would say that a classic/evangelical Arminian would be much closer to the truth that someone following Finney theology though!

 

Still just as wrong.

 

How so?
As arminians, unlike those holding to Finney views, do not disregard the Fall. nor hold that we can come to Christ apart from the working of the Holy Spirit, correct?

 

You are so wrong on so many levels.

What you need to do is look at my reponse to winman on this.

Yes indeed.

Your translation may say that but "men" or rather the equivalent is not in the original. But if you think that all are drawn to Christ, answer these questions. Jesus was speaking of the near future when he would die on the cross. How were those who had died before Jesus --residents of Hell supposed to be drawn? How were/are those who have never even heard of Christ or the Gospel drawn?

Well, people are prevented because of their sin. It blinds them and they have a hatred for God. But the Scripture does say that those who come to Him He will never drive away.

Very true. Follow through with that idea MB.

 

19 And this is the judgment, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, lest his works should be reproved.
John 3:19-20 Asv

That is the verdict of all those found in Adam... before God brings them to faith in Christ...