Depends on whether you claim that arbitrarily selecting a few for salvation and that they don't even need to accept the gospel to be saved as SavedByMercy argues is the 'same gospel' as the Romans 10 sequence which is quote the opposite.
I would hope it is readily evident that savedbymercy does not hold to the gospel as presented in the Bible. Now, I can see where both the Calvinist and the Arminian are coming from in their respective views, and while I probably lean more Arminian than Calvinist, I don't claim either. That's more a tendency of mine to avoid lumping myself into a group. (Example: I vote in every election but I have never claimed true affiliation with a political party...though I tell folks that I lean more Libertarian than anything.)
We hold to the Arminian one, the one in the Bible.
You need to read the "Ten Commandments" thread #
1 where the "Baptist Confession of Faith" is being upheld by ... me .. .while it is being run down by 2 or 3 baptists on this board -- before going too far down that road.
I haven't been involved in that thread to a great extent, other than a couple of posts.
The only thing is, Bob, holding to legalism like that is risky. Consider these verses, showing Christianity's ties to the Law:
Hebrews 7:11-12 said:
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Under Christ the priesthood was changed from corruptible men to incorruptible God. Since the priesthood changed, and since the Law was fulfilled in Christ, who did so for us, we are no longer bound by the law.
Matthew 15:11 said:
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
Much grief was given over dietary restrictions and the like, yet Jesus informs the multitude that it isn't what we eat that defiles us, but rather what we say/teach/preach that can defile us. This is a change from the law.
Matthew 12:1-13 said:
1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat.
2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
6 But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
9 And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue:
10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.
Christ explains here that the old legalist tradition of doing no work on Sabbath was already broken many times over, but there were good reasons for it. David took shewbread from the Temple because he was starving. Christ tells the Pharisees that if one of them had a sheep fall in a pit on the Sabbath, they would most assuredly move to save the sheep. That is no different from Christ, even though it stood in opposition to the legalist tradition under the Law. All of these claims were made so as not to "profane the Temple," yet Christ tells us, and since He dwells within us, that there is one among us who is "greater than the temple."
Do you believe if Christ was willing to show how the Law was changed by grace, and to take on Himself the role of perfect eternal priest, that He's really going to punish us, or bar us entry from Heaven or the perfected Earth of Revelation 21, simply because we chose to worship on Sunday instead of Saturday?
Is God Baptist??
Did He make a mistake in Ex 20?
Even the "Baptist Confession of Faith" and D.L.Moody and the Westminster Confession of Faith and many others admit that the Sabbath Commandment as God gave it to mankind in Eden was on a very specific day of the week.
you need to read that thread #
1 before going down that road.
My point here is not that Baptists are Seventh-day Adventists... obviously.
I wouldn't call God a Baptist, though I believe that the core Baptist traditions are most closely in line with Biblical teaching than, say Catholicism. I also believe, though, that the saved of every denomination will reach Glory with God and we'll realize, if it were possible, just how much we had missed doctrinally speaking.
raying: