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The Sons of God in their natural head Adam are who sinned in Adam !

 

When Adam fell, did only the children of Abel fall?

 

:thumbsup::thumbsup: Good!

 

What about the offspring of Cain? Do they have any chosen people in their lineage?

 

Was Adam the first man a son of God Lk 3:38 ?

 

Yes. Never believed otherwise...

 

Ok that's who sinned in Adam, the Sons of God ! So the Sons of God that sinned in Adam, God chastens them and brings them to Faith in Christ, the Seed of the Women Gal 3:26 ! That is how the Children of God are manifested 1 John 3:10 !

 

Cain was of the Wicked One because Gods word states that he was one ! 1 Jn 3:12 ! Now problem ?

 

Where's the popcorn? This is kinda amusing....

 

Physically or spiritually?

 

When Adam, the Son of God Lk 3:38 fell the Sons of God fell in him as their Natural Federal Head ! Now are all men without exception Sons of God ? The answer is NO ! The Sons of God who were in Adam that sinned shall be revealed by their Faith in Christ who recovers them out of the Fall ! Gal 3:26

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

 

You are advocating the 'serpent seed' doctrine. Just because you state you don't believe Cain is the offspring of Satan and Eve through 'relations', your beliefs are eerily similiar...


'Serpent seed' doctrinal beliefs...

--sons of Cain are the Kenites...

Now, Zipporah was the wife of Moses. Her father, Jethro, was a Kenite. That makes Moses' children part Kenite and part Jewish...

--Cain was the offspring of Satan(serpent in the Garden) and Eve. All of this lineage constitute the Kenites....

Now, getting back to Moses and Zipporah. How do you reconcile this if all of Cain's lineage, viz Moses' and Zipporah's children are descendants of Cain, if Cain's lineage is, indeed, the Kenites?

--All that fell in Adam was of the lineage of Abel. Cain was not of Adam, therefore, he was already cursed, being the offspring of Satan(serpent in the Garden) and Eve...


Again, a lot of the Jews in OT days were of Kenite lineage. Moses was of the tribe of Levi, who were the ones who did the priestly functions. You have Jacob(Israel), Levi, Kohath, Amram, and then Moses. Starting with Kohath, he is the first offspring of the Levites. From Moses going forward, they have Kenite bloodlines, seeing that their matriarch was Zipporah, a Kenite.


Just because you state that you don't believe Eve and Satan(serpent in the Garden) didn't have 'relations' doesn't mean you reject the 'serpent seed' doctrine. It's seeping, oozing through your posts.....

 

I know the word states that. You've stated that a gazillion times now.



Again, how did he become a child of the wicked one? What caused him to become a child of the wicked one?


I want you thoughts, ideas, opinions on how Cain became a child of the wicked one....

 

Again, Adam was made in the image of God. After he fell, he marred that image. We now bear Adam's likeness/image, the marred image of God.



I do not mean to offend any on here, so please accept my deepest apology if this does bother someone...


Does this look like 'the image of God'??




We are tainted through and through by sin.

 

Drifting away from the 'safe harbor of scripture'? Brother, SBM's drifting somewhere in the Aegean sea...

 

Adam made in Gods Image was the fact that he was made in the Image of Christ whom he was Chosen in, that is why it reads Gen 5:1-2 the Image of God reflected Christ and the Church, Male and Female. Christ is the Image of God 2 Cor 4:4 for naturally Adam was not in the Image of God, it was by His Union with Christ ,the God who Created Him ! The fall did not mar God's Image that is blasphemy, Gods Image is manifested through the Fall and New Birth of the Spirit 2 Cor 3:18 ! You are far from the Truth !

 

First off, your 'eternal justification' is way off base, way off sound biblical doctrine....


Now, let's delve into the verses you offered....


in whom the god of this age did blind the minds of the unbelieving, that there doth not shine forth to them the enlightening of the good news of the glory of the Christ, who is the image of God;(2 Cor. 4:4 YLT)

Agreed that Christ is the image of God. Adam was the image of God prior to the fall. After the fall, that image was defiled, marred, broken, through and by sin. We now bear the image of Adam, the marred image of Christ. The first Adam is of the earth, earthy, the last Adam a quickening Spirit.


and we all, with unvailed face, the glory of the Lord beholding in a mirror, to the same image are being transformed, from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.(2 Cor. 3:18 YLT)

So our fleshy man is being molded? Does God work to make us look different? What you are missing here is that God works to change the appearance of the inner man, the soul and spirit of a man. When that man grows in grace, knowledge and truth, it continues to bring the outer man into subjection when the flesh rears its ugly head. This isn't talking about our physical bodies, but the soul, spirit inside a man....

 

Again SBM, how did Cain become a child of the wicked one? Exegete Gen. 4:1 and 1 John 3:12....

 

I said this on post #61 pg. 7....



If was after this initial post of mine confronting you about the 'serpent seed' doctrine you deny in believing, you stated this, SBM...

I then said this....

You then stated this....

I then asked you this....

Then you posted all of these after I asked you to state what you mean by Cain being a seed of the wicked one....

I have asked you many times to answer how Cain became a son of the wicked one.

--Is it by birth? If so, then if he's the offspring of Adam and Eve(as you stated he is), then what caused him to be the son of the wicked one?

--Was it sometime after birth? if so, what caused him to become the child of the wicked one?


I am wanting you to exegete the biblical passages you offered...is that too much to ask from you?