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With thanks to SavedByMercy for defending Calvinsm

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savedbymercy

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convicted1 said:
So, did the serpent have 'relations' with Eve and Cain is the child of him and Eve? That is what the 'serpent seed' doctrine is....
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I don't believe that ! But I do believe in the Children of the Wicked One Matt 13:38-39 ! Are you going to evade those scriptures ?
 
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savedbymercy

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convicted1 said:
I am a child of my parents due to their 'relations'. How are the non-elect the literal child of the wicked one?
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By being the child of their parents ! Cain was of that wicked one 1 John 3:12 and was he not the physical child of Adam and Eve as stated here Gen 4:1 !
 
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convicted1

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"In brief, he taught that God had an external seed, and the devil an external seed; and that God gave to Adam a seed which we call the body; that our bodies which we inherit from Adam are simply houses for God's and the devil's children to live in. When we die, if God's eternal seed is in us it returns to him; but if the devil's seed it returns to him, while the body returns to dust never to be resurrected." (From J. H. Grime, History of Middle Tennessee Baptists, 1902)
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"Come, my reader, let us reason together a moment. You may think my doctrine wretched -- but think again, is it scripturally and experimentally reasonable to believe, but that there are sinners lost? Are these lost sinners the creatures of God by creation? Is it not more reasonable to believe they have sprung from Satan, than from the Divine Being? As I think you believe me, that God never created any one for destruction, is it not more to the glory and honor of God, to believe that he will punish Satan in his own seed, than in beings, which he himself had made, and Satan had got possession of? Does God Possess more love and mercy than wisdom and power? Does, he, as God, want to save more than he will or can save? How can these things be, and he be a God of infinite power and wisdom? Think of these things, and if they fail to bring you to this truth, then I request you to answer, at least in your own mind, these questions I have proposed, with the evidence that have produced, satisfactorily, in another way; for they all mean something, and the truth is what we ought to know and practice. Perhaps you are ready to inquire, what benefit can arise from the belief of this, should it be a truth? I answer, truth exalts the Divine Being, humbles his saints, and defies the enemies of God. And amongst all the truths that appear, this is best calculated to answer and defeat the Arminian errors, and Universalian false basis. Establish the saints, and prevent controversy, as far as it is believed, while, instead of its preventing saints from preaching to, and praying for sinners, if it is believed aright, stimulates them to their duty." -- Parker in Views on the Two Seeds (originally typed by Ben H. Irwin, and made available courtesy of Tom Adams and Hoyt Sparks)
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All of this is eerily similiar to what you're conveying on here...

http://baptistsearch.blogspot.com/2006/07/two-seedism-of-daniel-parker.html
 
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convicted1

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savedbymercy said:
By being the child of their parents ! Cain was of that wicked one 1 John 3:12 and was he not the physical child of Adam and Eve as stated here Gen 4:1 !
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So if he, Cain is not the son of Adam, and you do not hold to 'serpent seed' teachings, and that Satan didn't have 'relations' with Eve, how did Cain come into existence?
 
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convicted1

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savedbymercy said:
I don't believe what he believes , I am posting what I believe, and you are evading it ! What are you going to do with Matt 13:38-39 ! Do you believe that the Children of the Wicked One were made in the image of God ?
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How are they the children of the wicked one? That's what I am asking you. I want some clarification from you.
 
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savedbymercy

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convicted1 said:
So the serpent had 'relations' with Eve?
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What do you mean ? What did I just post ? What does Gen 4:1 say ? Cain, who was of the wicked one, was a product of Adam and Eve having relations, That's what I believe ! Now if you keep misrepresenting what I said, this will be over with with you, you understand ?
 
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