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So how is it a problem for you?

 

AT CONCEPTION. The egg/ova and sperm are living human cells that, when joined during conception, begin the formation of a new life.

 

That is not the question. Are they alive?

Follow your logic you could say that once joined they go no further than being human. [Kind of a dumb statement ... but it follows your logic.]

 

They are living cells; individually, that's what they remain. Joined, they create an organism that grows, continually changes, is functionally active, and reproduces.

 

He's posted before, OR, that he doesn't give credence to the unborn; that he believes until they draw their first breath out of the womb, they don't count.

 

Yep he has and then he would have us believe he does not support abortion even though combined with his position on the unborn he supports organizations like planned parenthood.

If it walks like one and looks like one...........

 

Rev - abortion isn't a bad thing if you don't consider the unborn a "person" before birth. That's how some of these folks justify it: it's just a blob of tissue, a mass of cells--or in some of the worst cases, a parasite--until it's outside the womb. The same sort of de-humanization that soldiers use when they call the enemy "gook" or "haji." Call it something other than what it is, and you don't have to think about what it really is, and it's not actually "killing" or "murder."

 

Yep a mass of cells that has a heart beat only 18 days after conception

 

Exactly. And growing and continually changing from the moment of conception; conducting oxygen exchange with the mother; etc., etc.

 

And CTB disappears again...

 

Yet somehow or another, that growing and continually changing from the moment of conception, conducting oxygen exchange with the mother unborn baby isn't viewed as part of the ALL Who have sinned by OldRegular.

 

The bible teaches us that God punishes sin, yet no unborn child has had the opportunity to willfully sin or rebel against God. However, every child conceived bears the sinful nature of man. At the same time, God has continuously revealed himself as a God of goodness and mercy. Therefore, I believe that every child murdered in the womb is in heaven. Surely the blood of Jesus is enough to cover the sinful nature of, yet sinless, unborn infant.

 

It is not that difficult to understand. They are NOT YET BORN. A classic definition of sin is a willful transgression of a known law of God. Someone NOT YET BORN cannot willfully transgress a known law of God.

Romans 9:10-11 KJV

10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;​

Once the child takes their first breath outside the womb they are certainly counted among the ALL; as in

Romans 3:23 KJV

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;​

 

Not that it pertains to this subject -- but I agree that "all" includes the unborn. But as has been pointed out here by Padre Durand, and others in another thread, scripture covers them.

So what's your point?

 

OR, you and I have been around this merry-go-round before and you refuse to listen and continue to libel me.

I do not stand for any abortion practices and have stood firmly with the pro-life camp for the entirety of my ministry.

That you continue to libel me on this board with slurs and accusations in spite of my continued replies that I do not affirm abortion is beyond unbelievable. It is, quite frankly, ignorant and mean spirited.

As a Christian brother, you have the responsibility to listen to me, once again, state that I, unequivocally, do not support abortion at any point once life begins. Please stop libeling me on this board.

 

Yep, start posting some facts, and CTB disappears...so much for caring about ALL life, not just the born....