OldRegular
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Anything further would be speculation and pointless. As I said it is not a problem for Sovereign God.
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When Does Life Begin?
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Anything further would be speculation and pointless. As I said it is not a problem for Sovereign God.
So how is it a problem for you?
OldRegular
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I really did not say it was a problem for me. You ask a question I responded as follows:
AT CONCEPTION. The egg/ova and sperm are living human cells that, when joined during conception, begin the formation of a new life.
They are living cells; individually, that's what they remain. Joined, they create an organism that grows, continually changes, is functionally active, and reproduces.
OldRegular
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What else would they become other than human Crabbie!
You are like PJ, you cannot bring yourself to POST what you really believe about abortion can you? However, I believe your true feelings about the slaughter of the unborn child are well known!
Over 55,000,000 babies slaughtered and only once in the case of "Gosnel of Philadelphia" has justice been done. Yet these butchers, and that is what they are, butchers, will have to face the Judgment of God!
He's posted before, OR, that he doesn't give credence to the unborn; that he believes until they draw their first breath out of the womb, they don't count.
OldRegular
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I had not seen that post. However, it is obvious to all from his posts what his views are on the continuation of the slaughter of the unborn child. Perhaps in hell the pro-abortionists will have to exist eternally with the picture of the horror they did always before them!
I would also bet Crabbie is a member of SPCA and probably will not eat veal!
Rev - abortion isn't a bad thing if you don't consider the unborn a "person" before birth. That's how some of these folks justify it: it's just a blob of tissue, a mass of cells--or in some of the worst cases, a parasite--until it's outside the womb. The same sort of de-humanization that soldiers use when they call the enemy "gook" or "haji." Call it something other than what it is, and you don't have to think about what it really is, and it's not actually "killing" or "murder."
Exactly. And growing and continually changing from the moment of conception; conducting oxygen exchange with the mother; etc., etc.
The bible teaches us that God punishes sin, yet no unborn child has had the opportunity to willfully sin or rebel against God. However, every child conceived bears the sinful nature of man. At the same time, God has continuously revealed himself as a God of goodness and mercy. Therefore, I believe that every child murdered in the womb is in heaven. Surely the blood of Jesus is enough to cover the sinful nature of, yet sinless, unborn infant.
It is not that difficult to understand. They are NOT YET BORN. A classic definition of sin is a willful transgression of a known law of God. Someone NOT YET BORN cannot willfully transgress a known law of God.
Romans 9:10-11 KJV
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;
11 For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;
Once the child takes their first breath outside the womb they are certainly counted among the ALL; as in
Romans 3:23 KJV
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Not that it pertains to this subject -- but I agree that "all" includes the unborn. But as has been pointed out here by Padre Durand, and others in another thread, scripture covers them.
So what's your point?
OR, you and I have been around this merry-go-round before and you refuse to listen and continue to libel me.
I do not stand for any abortion practices and have stood firmly with the pro-life camp for the entirety of my ministry.
That you continue to libel me on this board with slurs and accusations in spite of my continued replies that I do not affirm abortion is beyond unbelievable. It is, quite frankly, ignorant and mean spirited.
As a Christian brother, you have the responsibility to listen to me, once again, state that I, unequivocally, do not support abortion at any point once life begins. Please stop libeling me on this board.