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Discussion in 'History Forum' started by popsthebuilder, Jul 23, 2015.

  1. popsthebuilder

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    Which?

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    If you mean how the war is won, then the answer is that it is already won and we are awaiting the judgment to be rendered (which will, we are told, come when the time is fulfilled). If you mean who wins the war, then again, it is already won and Christ is victor. If you mean how we will win the war, then yes, this is also in my text:

    Ephesians 6:10-20
    Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
    Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

    Stand firm therefore, HAVING GIRDED YOUR LOINS WITH TRUTH, and HAVING PUT ON THE BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, and having shod YOUR FEET WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE GOSPEL OF PEACE; in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. And take THE HELMET OF SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
    With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit, and with this in view, be on the alert with all perseverance and petition for all the saints,
    and pray on my behalf, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in proclaiming it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
     
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    Which what? which ἐκκλησία?

    That is clarified for us as well: the Body of Christ.
     
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    That was beautiful. Thank you.

    There is but one Christ.

    As there is but one God. They are the same but Christ is the manifestation of God
    On earth. Jesus was Christ or Crist.

    There is a second coming. It will be Crist. It will be the three of truth that make this one which is indeed the division of the two. And, yes it will be Christ that concourse. Yet it will not destroy. It will but purify. It has been foretold, and is the end of our trials.

    It creeps into a position to pounce.


    Thank you.


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    Wow thought I had a typo with concourse, but looked up the second definition.

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    pops, you have linked us to Daryl Anka (cousin to Paul Anka) who claims that he "channels" a extra-terrestrial being from the future named "Bashar" that teaches that all roads lead to God and that all religions are basically the same.

    That's why he talks so funny - apparently the from-the-future-alien is speaking through him.

    http://extraordinaryintelligence.com/becoming-bashar-masquerading-angel-light/

    You DO see how that strips him of any credibility on any subject.

    Here is a quote from "Bashar" about Jesus and it is in DIRECT opposition to what the Bible teaches and what Christians believe.

    It's crap from hell. Daryl Anka is either a superb con man or is possessed by Satan.

    I don't know how else to explain it to you.

    Christianity and Islam are polar opposites and it cannot be proved by anyone that these two religions teach the same truths about God.
     
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    Your right.

    The texts can though.

    Of course this requires an unbiased approach.

    The Torah is the book that links them all. The other books all say very similar things.

    Mans interpretation, and manipulative translation through second hand, biased opinions is the problem.

    Do stories not get more and more changed through hands to the point of being unrecognizable?

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    I assure you they are not polar opposites. That is what the unseen forces that be would have you believe, literally.

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    Could you just show me, using the Torah, where Christianity and Islam are teaching the same thing. Throw me a bone here.

    The message, stories, and truths of the Bible have not changed at all. That's a miracle of God that even through the centuries and translations into different languages and updates to modernize translations to the reader's vernacular has not altered the message in any way.

    The Bible is not unrecognizable.
     
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    "Crist," BTW, is Old English for Christ. It is not ancient and is really not relevant (Christ is not translated from Crist).
    Uh...yep. I hadn't bothered watching the video until now, and it only reaffirms a nagging thought. I think I'll retire from this thread with one last point, explaining why, in a 3 step process:

    1. John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. ... (vs. 14) And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    2. 1 John 4:1-4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

    3. 2 John 1:7-11 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch yourselves, that you do not lose what we have accomplished, but that you may receive a full reward. Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting; for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds.
     
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    Scarlett O.

    In Faith I opened th Torah on my phone.

    I came on this very first.

    And the Lord appeared unto him by the terebinths of Mamre, as he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

    and he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood over against him; and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed down to the earth,

    and said: ‘My lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant.

    Let now a little water be fetched, and wash your feet, and recline yourselves under the tree.

    And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and stay ye your heart; after that ye shall pass on; forasmuch as ye are come to your servant.’ And they said: ‘So do, as thou hast said.’


    Not only is this a prophecy of the three that will be Crist, but is also saying by the faithful that the Lord may rest now and be comforted that the faithful will continue to. Faithful.

    Crist is God on earth.

    Truly faithfull do not divide throughout history in this scripture.
    Give me a few minutes.



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    And the Lord said: ‘Shall I hide from Abraham that which I am doing

    seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?

    This is a testament that states why God is hidden from men. That reason is misplaced pride. Then it goes further to say all will be one in Faith.


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    Says to seek out the pure of the world to help in God's cause.

    Moreover thou shalt provide out of all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating unjust gain; and place such over them, to be rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens.

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    If thou shalt do this thing, and God command thee so, then thou shalt be able to endure, and all this people also shall go to their place in peace.’

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    Seams to be about Jesus

    And Moses said unto the people: ‘Fear not; for God is come to prove you, and that His fear may be before you, that ye sin not.’


    Explanation of everyone's personal connection with God

    And the Lord said unto Moses: Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel: Ye yourselves have seen that I have talked with you from heaven.
    Ye shall not make with Me—gods of silver, or gods of gold, ye shall not make unto you.

    Directly states to not worship any interpretation of God such as a crusifix or chain with crusifix, or pictures of man Crist.


    Descriptions of the tabernicle are explanations of duality

    This part is a reference to the second coming of Crist, and the unity of the three different yet same materials that will be Crist


    And he made the veil of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen; with the cherubim the work of the skilful workman made he it.

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    Reference to the truly faithful and there pure adhaerance to God and there job of filtering out the false believers.

    And the screen for the gate of the court was the work of the weaver in colours, of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen; and twenty cubits was the length, and the height in the breadth was five cubits, answerable to the hangings of the court.

    Hope that's good for now. That was fun, I should do it more often. More questions? Hope everyone is being opened and positive. I swear by fear and Faith in the Lord that this is real. Thanks.

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    JonC,
    Yeah God was the begining.
    Crist, yeah still following.

    Yeah, Crist is definitely the manifestation of God.

    Yep, right on. What are you trying to say exactly?

    Thanks in advance incase you actually left.



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    Scarlett, the Bible stories match OT and NT. However Pops may be referring to Quran. It has butchered many OT stories to the point that they are not possibly the same. Such as Mary, the mother of Jesus being the brother of Aaron(Moses) brother..... Which creates a huge timeline issue.

    Other stories the Quran botches are:

    God didn't curse man, woman and the serpent at the fall.

    Noah's wife and 1 son object him and die in the flood. Other people from outside his family join him on the ark.

    Abraham's son's are switched in regards to the sacrifice.

    Lot is a prophet

    Rejects Lot and his daughters "incident "

    Aaron didn't make the golden calf

    ....this list is not exhaustive.

    The NT is in harmony with the OT.....Quran....not so much.
     
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    Bs. The Torah is the base of the Qur'an and the Nt. The Qur'an says specifically to believe the Evangel which is more of less the New Testament.

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    It says that if Christians actually went by there books then they would be truthful.

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