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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Internet Theologian, Dec 9, 2015.

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  1. Internet Theologian

    Internet Theologian Well-Known Member

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    The OP describes it thoroughly, it is seen in the things it preaches. The list is extensive enough that anyone can see it unless they wish to display a pretense of ignorance.

    As if their guilty conscience were the fault of the OP, right?

    Nothing in the OP speaks of nor does it address Dispensationalism. However, I cannot help those who have a guilty conscience that may give itself away. Perhaps said dispy's preach the things contained therein themselves? If the shoe fits, wear it.

    If you've not heard the things in the OP taught, you must live under a rock, and are in denial. Names are unnecessary when such common knowledge of things expressed are rampant. Several others laid claim to being aware of these things. You know this yourself, but it if you play your game you can make pretense as if you're not in denial.

    Now, which of the things listed do you not preach yourself?

    Here is a starting place for you: Concerning salvation do you preach repentance as necessary or unnecessary?

    Address that and then you'll actually be contributing to the thread.
     
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    Internet Theologian Well-Known Member

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    I have, from some 39 authors (more or less) who wrote the 66 books of the Bible. :)
     
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    Amen!
     
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    Is repentance a fruit of the Gospel being worked in a person? Or is repentance necessary prior to Conversion? Is repentance a "Mind Change" or does God Grant us repentance by giving us a "Changed Mind?"
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Good. Now is it all of God?
     
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    God is the Only One i know who can do the supernatural.
     
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    good phrase.....the list was clear.
    The only one who could not see the list clearly is someone who does what is on the list.....like hunters wearing camouflage blend into the leaves and brush in the woods...

    :oops:
    this seems to be accurate:confused:

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    certainly everyone has heard these things many times.o_O

    busted
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    very clear.....well said!
     
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    Salvation is by faith in Christ.
    Repentance is the fruit of salvation. If it isn't then you preach a gospel of works.

    Look, There are those here who accuse dispensationalists of preaching an easy believism gospel.
    Define your parameters.

    There is at least one here who claimed that comprehension of the gospel was not necessary for salvation was "of the Spirit of God." If that be the case why don't the Calvinists simply take it all to its logical conclusion and baptize infants since no comprehension is necessary and salvation is "all of the Spirit."
    Define your parameters.
     
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    This whole thread takes the Good News, the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and makes what is a gift of God, a simple concept, and turns it into a Chinese Fire Drill.
     
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    No, it's still simple. The question is whether or not it does anything.
     
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    You have a right to disagree. Most of what I see in this thread is the same old Pharisee type life style. Christianity is not memorizing rules and trying to obey them in your own power. The Christian life is following the Holy Spirit in you daily to be more like Jesus. The life your lead is lead through the power of the Holy Spirit. Seems funny to me while lots of local churches are worried about alcohol, dancing and lottery tickets, gossip is rampant and ignored.
     
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    The above is declaring attitude toward the Gospel. Let us examine these things.

    I reject the popular and erroneous notion of it being simple. To say it is simple is to believe and imply it is understood by mental assent to its facts.

    It is not.

    It's neither simple, nor a mere concept. It is the power and wisdom of God, 1 Cor. 1:18-24 with exceeding great depths, Romans 11:33. It is quite deep which is why few can expound upon it efffectively, and none will ever exhaust its depth.

    The simpleton view of the Gospel was expressed in the OP by examining and stating what these preach erroneously to others.
     
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    Memorize what rules?
     
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    Mental assent was never in the equation. That is something we thought up. Give me one example of mental assent in Scripture.
     
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    No one in this thread has stated that Christianity is anything close to what you state above. Perhaps you're posting your reply in the wrong thread because the above is absolutely not reflected here.


    You've missed the forest for the trees. False teachings are to be addressed and this happened in the OP. The gossip piece? That's all on you. :)
     
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    The rules usually your local church sets up for a start. I really like your opening post. Could I share it with someone else?
     
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    OK.

    As he was saying these things, many believed in him. John 8:30.
     
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    I see. You are mistaking prescriptive for descriptive.
     
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    Here is the OP stated and answered.

    Who teaches this?

    Could you outwardly judge that the thief on the cross was a transformed saved person?

    What about Lot? Yet, the Lord said he is a righteous man; “just Lot.”

    It is the Lord that judges the heart; man only sees what is on the outside.

    Who are you accusing? Who does this? No evidence. Just hearsay.

    You learned from where? From whom? Your own church practices these things? Then go to another church! Just where in the U.S. did you get your information from and from who? I don’t live there.

    The verse is speaking of positional holiness. Otherwise you have a problem.

    1. How holy is “holy”?

    2. Are you as holy as God is holy?

    3. If you were to stand before God right now and he were to ask you: “Why should I let you into my heaven,” what would you answer? Would you say “Because I am holy enough”?

    4. If holiness is the marker and it doesn’t refer to positional holiness you simply have a religion of works, and that is not what Christianity is.

    Hearsay. Who teaches this? Be specific or stop laying false accusations.

    Now you are really out to lunch! No Baptist church teaches that baptism is optional.

    So who are you speaking about. Come clean! What pole are you hiding behind?

    False accusations are wrong and unethical.
     
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