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I'm going reread through this thread....do more research on Free Grace Theology...and then prayerfully engage with you and others.

 

But first things first! I'm going to enjoy fellowship in the Lord Jesus with friends and family...Merry Christmas!

 

While you're reading through actually go to what GES explains as to what it is, they are the official position. And undo that ridiculous 'dislike' you recently gave for no good reason while you're at it. This here is supposed to be above facebook, being Christian and all.

 

...and undo the 'old' you also just gave me too. Stop being callow.

Merry Christmas!

 

I didn't like your assumption.

Earlier you also said I used the phrase "false accusations." I did not. I said "accusations". I should have disliked that as well

 

That was an accident. Touch screen is sensitive.

 

Oh, perhaps I should allow you to type my responses back to you just how you would like them.

 

Touchscreen allows undo's. Get busy.

 

Putting a smiley face after your responses is quite misleading at times. I doubt either of us is smiling

 

I certainly am smiling and have been throughout the exchange.

I'm not uptight bro. Chill, it's Christmas Eve, we celebrate the advent of our Lord and Savior.

 

I'm wound some times lol

 

Forgive me...Merry Christmas!

 

Discipleship classes are so-called because they are for disciples.

Matt. 28:19-20. 'Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them........'

First you make disciples, then you baptize them, them you teach them. Simples.

Ananias was a disciple (Acts 9:10). He lived in Damascus. There is no evidence whatsoever that he was a missionary or that he had given all his money away or given up his day job. What he had given up were his sins. He was also open to obey the calling of the Lord whatever it might be (Vs. 11ff).

Acts 11:20ff. 'But......men from Cyprus and Cyrene....when they had come to Antioch, spoke to the Hellenists, preaching the Lord Jesus. And the hand of the Lord was with them, and a great number believed and turned to the Lord.............and the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.' There is no indication that these disciples were all missionaries or that they gave all their money away.

The disciples in Ephesus (Acts 19:1) were so ignorant that they didn't even know about the Holy Spirit. Again, there is no indication that they were missionaries. They needed to learn; that's why they were called 'disciples.'

People who leave their houses, jobs and friends to go off to other countries for the Lord are called 'missionaries.' People who leave their sins to follow Christ are called disciples. People who do not leave their sins but still claim to follow Christ are called false disciples or false brethren.

 

That right there. Whomever comforts the latter above and assures them that heaven is theirs deserves the same just punishment that hypocrites will endure.

 

And forget 'keeping the balance' statement from the OP as if that somehow lends the presentation and arguments toward truth. Instead get to the teachings and then either commend them or condemn them.

This is about truth not how one appears when debating in the presence of others.

As J I Packer succinctly stated 'balance' is such “a horrible, self-conscious word.” He's right and that is what it is. It's nothing but prideful pointing to self; 'Me, me, me, and more of me'. Self and appearance of self becomes more important than the cost of the pursuit of truth and defending the true Gospel against error.

How ridiculous and appalling.

God help us and give us some more Elijah's instead of this pandering nonsense!

 

I disagree. Especially in our society when people don't know what it is to live by faith, suffer for Christ; become a Christian and pay for it with their life as they did in the first century and in many Islamic nations today. Then what did Saul do before he was saved, and what happened to him after he was saved? The new "believer" was typically disowned by their family, persecuted by the Roman government and often left with no place to go except to a community of Christians. So it is in Islamic nations today. Such persecution matures a believer very quickly.

The anemic American believer has everything spoon-fed to him; faces no persecution; has his every need met--good job, nice house, never in need, etc. There is no faith required when all your needs are already provided. I don't know if many will understand that.

That is not the command. Put all the commands in all four gospels together plus the book of Acts and see what you come with.
1. Acts 1:8 Be witnesses.
2. Mark 16 Preach the gospel to every creature.
3. Luke 24 That repentance and remission of sins should be preached in all nations.
4 Mat.28 "Go therefore and "teach" (make disciples). The meaning here is teach enough to lead them to the Lord, and then teach them some more in order to baptize them, and then teach them all things whatsoever I have commanded you. That is what discipleship is all about. It is a process.

There is plenty of evidence that he had been a believer for some time, that is a mature believer, i.e., a disciple.

Act 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
--These were believers that were taught by Barnabas and Saul himself. They were taught for a full year. Yes, by that time they would be disciples, especially under those circumstances which I have already described to you. They were not once a week (just Sunday morning) Christians as most Baptists are.

Seriously!!
Many commentators believe that these "disciples" were not even saved!!
They were disciples of John the Baptist, not Christ. They had never even heard of the Holy Spirit.
No, they were not disciples of Christ. We don't know for sure if they were even saved.

And yet Jesus stipulated that a disciple is one who forsakes all that he has, not a missionary. You have a man-made distinction that Christ never made.

 

Agedman certainly takes posts and loves to show half the story by only showing one side. That is bearing false witness. Obviously he has fear of man and won't call out the moderator to whom my responses are directed in kind. If agedman did call out the other side then he'd be a man like Elijah who didn't always fear the popular or influential persons.

Agedman as you continue to pursue me throughout bb to malign me you're simply doing the exact same thing you accuse me of. Thumbsup

Now, why not address the posts I've made addressing the OP instead of cherry picking half a story only to attempt to malign and slander? In other words be the big spiritual giant you attempt to make yourself out to be.