Featured What Does Repent Mean?

Actually you have made my point. It in fact does make sense and the way you put turn from their sins is very accurate.

Joh 3:19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.
Joh 3:20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.
Joh 3:21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God."

 

Isn't it an amazing thing that one can point to one page for proof where he knows there is a lack of evidence and where none had been provided at that point, instead of pointing to the place where the evidence and proof actually exist? It is a remarkable thing, this self-deception!

The grandstanding of these types is hypocritical and sickening.

 

For the record repentance is more than just its technical dictionary definition, just as the term and meaning of Christ is more than just its technical dictionary definition. The former conveys more than merely a change of mind about Christ. How could a person have an encounter with the Christ of God and come away smelling only like the Koinè dictionary definition of 'repentance' alone?

 

Don't be deluded with lies of today kissy-poo preachers who are telling you that you trust in Jesus as your Savior for your sins, so you can live like a devil, and you will go to Heaven, because Christ paid for you. His Grace makes you free from going to Hell. Grace of Jesus is not a license to sin ! Word repent not just means to ask God to forgive you on sin He caught you. To repent means to turn away from your sin for life. How can God listen to your pleas for forgiveness, if you continue abiding in your sin. For example, I am a Christian, I trust in Jesus as my Lord, and I love to drink alcoholic drinks. Or here another example, I am a Christian, I trust in Jesus as my Lord, and I love to have sex with little boys. Think about this.

 

I don't want to think about that and wish I'd never read it. You should learn to use quotation marks and leading statements such as 'Some say, I am a Christian,...' and in addition use other examples to make your point.

Note to yourself: 'Look up dictionary definition of 'tact'.'

 

We got plenty of these hypocrites in America in our days. Like almost with one foot in Hell, Billy Graham. Also, Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen, John Hagee, and a lot of wolves preaching lies.

 

We got plenty of hypocrites. Pedophile pastors, priests, and other individuals claiming to be Christians. We are looking at today's mainstream churches soberly.

 

Who is "we"? I am not part of the "we" you speak of. In that collective "we" you have included priests. There are no priests in my world of biblical Christianity. There are in the world of Christendom which I believe you are referring to but I am not part of that world. They have priests, pedophiles, etc. We, at least the "we" that I know, do not. But then I don't know who you are and the churches that you associate yourself with are. Just who is the "we" that you include yourself in?

 

We means a common name. It means us sheep among wolves.

 

Bro we get the fact of that. But there is more sin in churches than the one you have been grinding your ax on. Drunkards, LIARS, thieves, idolators, covetous, hatefulness, rivalries, strife, anger (all under 'prasso')...name all of it. My point is many focus on what you are using because many do not practice that sin but they do make allowance for their other practice listed above, and these will suffer the same eternal punishment being themselves unconverted. There are some that come to the knowledge of their lost state of deception so there may be some sheep in that group.

 

Yes, I suppose I do take the reformed position in this matter.

But there is a reason for taking that view (imo).

I take the word "believe" or "belief" to be of the same meaning as "trust."

When one believes, it is the same as trust in the manner of total reliance upon that which is believed/trusted.

Faith has always the element of hope, and faith may fail as faithless.
Even the Scriptures point this out that God remains faithful in unfaithfulness.

Trust does not fail, for the trust is not dependent upon the one trusting; rather, trust is in the promise made certain by the one trusted. Trust may be betrayed, but trust remains true until the betrayal where faith does not.

Because such a strong, bold, secure confidence (trust) in the Lord is not a part of the natural person, there must be present that catalyst of change implanted in that person so trust and the expression of that trust as faith may be realized.

What then is faith?

It is Forsaking All I Trust Him. Trust is the focus.

Faith does not nor can it generate trust. Trust generates faith.

There is also the matter of the sequence presented in the Scriptures. The sequence seems to be God first and then the response by humans.

God loved us first - then we respond.
God sacrificed first - then we respond.
God establishes the law - then we respond.
God judges - then we respond.
God saves - then we respond.

I don't recall a place in the scriptures were humankind initiated something righteous and then God responded. There are times when humankind did evil and God responded, but not that which was righteous. There are times when God used the righteous men, but that righteousness was imputed by Him, not part of the natural make up of them. Both Mosses and Abram are prominent in the Scriptures and yet Christ said that unless righteousness exceeds that example, heaven is not realized.

Certainly, one may give that which is good, but good is not synonymous with righteous. And in every instance that I recall in the Scriptures were human "good" is expressed, it ultimately fails.

 

Faith and trust are synonyms. How can one not fail and the other fail when they are the same thing?
Faith is trust, confidence in the word of another, specifically in the word or promise of God, as Abraham had.
Look in Romans 5
Rom 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Rom 5:2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Rom 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
Rom 5:4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
Rom 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

Hope is quite a ways down the list from faith. It is faith by which a man is saved. We are justified by faith. We rejoice in hope.

The catalyst is two-fold.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.
The ministry of the Holy Spirit is in John 16:8-11.
--The Holy Spirit convict of sin as the gospel is presented. It is very plain and clear in 1Pet.1:23,
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1Pe 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
--The Word of God here is specifically the gospel. One is saved through the gospel message. He must have faith or confidence that it is true, that it will save him. The Holy Spirit will work in his heart and convict him of sin and his need for a Savior.
Paul said:
1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
--This is the only means by which a person is saved: faith in the gospel message--that message which Paul preached.

--A needless differentiation. They are the same--synonyms.

The gospel is always first.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.

Co 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1Co 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

All in the gspel message.

One must respond in faith. Salvation is a gift to be received by faith. It is God's free gift to mankind.

First the gospel.
Faith comes by hearing the gospel.
The Holy Spirit brings conviction.
The response comes from man by faith.
--There is no magical regeneration that can happen without the hearing of the Word of God that some here believe.

Man must respond to the gospel by faith. Paul clearly taught that in Scripture.

I never said that good saves.

 

"DHK,

Regeneration is not magical...it is the super natural work of the Spirit of God.

 

Without hearing the Word of God it is nothing but magical, mystical, mysterious, experience not taught in the Word of God. Perhaps one believing in this type of experience should look into Hinduism instead.
1Pet.1:23 says that we are born again by the Word of God.
Regeneration without the Word of God is impossible. Do you believe in magic?

 

Here is another area in which we can disagree.

The Scriptures record the word "Trust" in some 54 passages.

Faith is generally related in some manner to "faithfulness" such as what the apostles may say when complementing the "faith" of an assembly.

Luke, is the only writer giving the account of the Lord to use the word "faith" and again the word is also to be taken as "faithfulness."

So, although in the modern church one might want to consider them synonyms, they are not.

A child will understand the word "trust" and understand the commitment aspects associated with that word far better than the word "faith."

So will adults. (in my experience).

Ask yourself if the two questions below are synonymous in all aspects?

Do you have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ?

Do you trust the Lord Jesus Christ?

The two are not synonymous for the second is far stronger and not open to diminished value of halfheartedness.

Trust is an either or not word. One either trusts completely, or they do not.

Which is why the Lord said "Trust the with the whole heart." Not have faith with the whole heart.