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The only thing destroyed was hermeneutics.

 

Taking a group of scriptures and saying it only applies one way to me is tunnel vision... I've heard preachers use it both ways...Suffering with Christ and Eternal Security... Brother Glen

 

if a preacher shoves it into a discussion of eternal security, that preacher is either ignorant of the scriptures or dishonest. That's not tunnel vision, that's plain fact.

 

So you can't answer my questions? Who is the "who" and who is the hireling? Are you part of the house church movement?

 

For those of you who do not know the house church movement is an extremist movement that hates pastors or anyone in authority in the church. They hate church buildings or any meeting place not in the home. The groups involved in the official house church movement are not actually churches. They do not function as churches and do not have leadership as churches. They are nothing more than small groups who have Bible studies at best.

*Note-this is not to be confused with simply holding church services in a home.

 

Thanks for the explanation and the heads up but it also bears this question "What is he doing over here?... Recruiting?Sneaky... Brother Glen

 

I hear what you are saying and you are about as old as I am!... I remember Jim Jones and (The Peoples Temple), David Koresh (The Branch Dividian) and Marvin Applewhite (Hale Boppe)... and being a true believer I won't be lead away with every wind of doctrine because false prophets come and go but the "DANGER" is they lead others away that only wanted to follow the Lord and paid the ultimate price doing it... Brother Glen

 

Well, we're all still waiting for you to explain how obeying Jesus is not practicing righteousness/law. Which Paul EXPLAINS does NOT justify a person unto eternal life, but you declare Paul wrong by declaring a child of God must practice/obey the law/righteousness or else be found unjustified unto eternal life.

Here, let me refresh your memory of that portion of scripture you pass over in your readings...

"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified." (Gal2:16)

Still waiting for you to destroy Paul's words.....and our understanding...

 

You have declared it so many times, but have never explained it. Just saying it is so does not make it so, sorry.

Paul does not say "good works". Rather "works of the law". You never explained how obeying Jesus' commandments are not "works of the law". Maybe you could start with listing Jesus' commandments and explain how they have nothing to do with obeying the law.

 

So where are we with this? Waiting for you to explain how obey Jesus' commands is not works of the law....

 

Those are all good questions, unfortunately they cannot be answered properly until you answer how obeying Jesus' commandments is not doing the works of the law. We still await your explanation.....

 

I agree 100% brother! But this isn't an explanation of the issue you are stuck on. You declared that obeying Jesus' commandments is NOT doing works of the Law. Now you need to explain this, how obeying Jesus' commands is NOT doing works of the Law, for it is YOU who has declared this. Until you deal with this point you are stuck. Anything else you come to understand and believe will have to be based on the truth or error of this point. Remember, you claimed you had reconciled the NT scriptures. This is your opportunity to show us how you have done so...