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Featured Faith? Where does it come from?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SovereignGrace, Feb 1, 2016.

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  1. Internet Theologian

    Internet Theologian Well-Known Member

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    You too have a confession of faith, you most likely call it your statement of beliefs, doctrinal statement, or such like. It is most likely quite perfunctory in nature but is nonetheless the same exact thing and serves the same exact objective, just much weaker in content as is typical of SOF's. Thus, using your standard of measure, your source is also weak, only much weaker. :)
     
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    There is never an attempt to get to the truth.....it is attack the messenger....even if he has the correct message....this is insanity.
     
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    At least be truthful and not slanderous.
    I don't hate people, and I never even hinted that I hated the man. Where did you get that idea?
    It is the doctrine I don't agree with.
    Contrary to your never ending accusations, I don't have an agenda. That is an endless false accusation by you. When I see doctrine that I believe is wrong, then I am not ashamed to speak out against it. That is not an agenda.
    There are many carnal Christians, even posting on this board. All who are not yielded to the Holy Spirit are acting out of their own flesh, and not of the Spirit. That makes them carnal. If he denies this basic simple truth then he too is wrong.

    Your condescension has been noted.
     
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    I went through a confession once on this board. That was enough. I will never do it again.
    Thus your post is a lie. It is not necessary for me to read all your sources, just to know where they come from. If they are Reformed or Calvnistic, then I know what they believe already. "The same old; the same old."
    I will use my Bible. I believe in sola scriptura. The confessions are not my authority.
     
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    Your reply is strange. I didn't say anything about weakness. A person can build a very strong argument defending a false position. That is not the point. The Calvinistic CoF are very detailed. So what? The Catechism of the RCC is very detailed as well, but I don't plan on doing a point by point exposition of that any time soon either.
    It doesn't matter whether or not our statement of faith is longer or shorter. What matters is if it adheres to the scriptures. Our statement of faith adheres to the scriptures much more closely than the Westminster or London CoF. And that is all that I have to say on that matter.
     
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    William Carey? Yes, he toiled for seven years. But it appears to me you are saying people have to will themselves to be born again. Not saying you are, but that is how it comes across to me.
     
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    And there it is. As a life long educator I have found that the greatest impediment to learning is the thought "I already know all about that."
    As will we all.
    Yes, that great REFORMED doctrine!
    Nor are they ours except as they correctly expound the inspired scriptures. Remember the rest of the great REFORMATION solas: Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, Solus Christus, and Soli Deo Gloria. :)
     
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    No. When you give a child a gift what does that child do? He or she simply reaches out in simple faith and receives it. He doesn't "will himself" to receive the gift, as you say. He is not a "warlock." Faith is not magic. It is not a work. It is simple confidence, confidence in the giver that what he is giving is what he said: a good gift, and in this case a gift that is able to forgive his sins.

    Matthew 7:9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
    Matthew 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
     
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    FTR, being born again(regeneration) and salvation are not the same. Being born again brings salvation. Man is passive in the birth of the Spirit, active(after being sensitized by the Spirit) in salvation.
     
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    How does a dead child reach out to receive anything?
     
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    Who said 'faith is magic'? It's supernatural, a gift of God(saving faith here), not 'hocus pocus'.
     
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    ***playing Jeopardy theme***
     
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    When the message centers around TULIP I don't need to listen to any more of it.
    But that is what certain posters want me to do. I am not a Calvinist. I don't intend on becoming one.
    The solas I have no quarrel with, except that some here are reluctant to admit to sola fide.
    Obviously, not being a Calvinist, I don't agree with everything a Calvinistic Confession would say. I don't believe it correctly expounds the truth, and on that point we would have to agree to disagree.
     
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    It's not strange at all. You said 'flawed source' which implies weakness. There is nothing strange with that other than you can't connect the dots.

    That being said, your statement of faith is much weaker than any COF.
     
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    "Dead" simply means "separated," not "a corpse."

    Faith is trust. Do you ever reach out in faith to your wife? Do you trust her?
     
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    I was truthful.
    If you read my post correctly i mentioned your hatred of the doctrine. I did not say you hated this man...
    So I never said anything like you reported....
    Your response confirms my post as accurate.
     
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    Nekros, Monsieur, nekros.

    Different faith. Just like you love your wife differntly than your Saviour.
     
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    You refer to my hatred and my agenda. I don't look at it as an accurate post at all.
     
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    I wish there was a *BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!* feature on here!
     
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    No. Faith is faith. Faith is confidence, trust, in the word of another. It is the object of faith that is different.
    One can have faith in a spouse.
    One can have faith in Christ.
    Only one can save you.
     
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