Featured I Have To Conclude.....

You lie, horrendously.

 

We all have relatives (some long dead) who rejected the Scriptures and denied Christ.

There is a part of the believer that examples that of Christ weeping over Jerusalem for the lack of positive response to the imploring of God; more often, that response is also coupled with a certain anger toward the still living that reject the truth in which more often great condemnation in words and actions are taken. At times, events are used to demonstrate disapproval and display some "spiritual" aspect. Perhaps, it would have been better to have grieved and proclaimed the longing love of the heart. Show the meek and quiet spirit of humble strength found in Christ, rather than stirring the embers into flames under the pot of disapproval.

There is a time when the believer should express anger of condemnation, but the most clear condemnations given by Christ were not against those who came out to meet him in need, but those who were self righteous in their doing, those of the teachers and rulers who were so self righteous yet fully condemned.

Personally, I save my most harsh remarks for those of the supposed redeemed preachers and teachers who think (as did those religious self righteous throughout the millennia) that their own self righteousness will excuse some excess of sinful behavior. I cannot begin to count the number of people who would excuse all manner of excess because they were a "soul winner." Some even proclaimed by others as being "a great soul winner." Or claim that by "office" or "appointment" they are above rebuke and exposure for their sinfulness. Such were and are liars, thieves, murderers, adulterers, and involved in all other manners of wicked excess, yet excused the behavior; one even saying, "great men have great appetites." Such were and are disgusting, and worthy of great condemnation, for they lead others astray.

However, there is no need to condemn the lost. They already know they are condemned. That is part of the work of the Holy Spirit to the world.
John 16:

“And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me; and concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you no longer see Me; and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged."​

Rather, point the lost to the reconciliation found in and through Christ.

That doesn't mean that excuse is offered to the lost. Sin is sin and not to be excused. However, there is a great difference in agreement that ALL have sinned (Romans 5) and are therefore condemned, and presenting that believers are without condemnation (Romans 8). Never neglect that between those two great statements in Scriptures, there is a purposed work of God to enslave the believer (Romans 6) to His will and purpose. Where once the unbeliever was already condemned (John 3), it is by God's purpose and by His grace that the believer possesses the "benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life." (Romans 6).

I would encourage the agreement that All have sinned, and point to the reconciliation that is found only in Christ. Then let the Holy Spirit do the work that the Scriptures teach He will do in the life of a believer. If there is no growth from that work of the Holy Spirit, then perhaps there is no belief, and one remains condemned. They are as those who our Lord wept over as He gazed upon Jerusalem.

 

You've made the outrageous accusation, the onus is on you to prove it.

Did you have a bad experience the last time you visited a PB church?

Have you ever put forth the effort to visit a PB church?

 

The one who has epitomized blathering accuses others.

Yea, cite your sources that show the Primitive Baptist church exalts carnality.

 

Case in point.

 

On the other hand we have the Corinthian church and they were not the best examples of disciples having the boldness of coming to the Lord's table drunk and with some practicing seriously depraved sins.

My "judgment" is that they were an opposing model (for instance) to the Ephesian church to show us the extremes that the saved can find themselves.

However the scriptures says to the Corinthians:
For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

As for my own personal practical case: my life was turned upside down when I was saved. I was in the military and word went around "What happened to Hank?" - "oh he got religion".
I stopped the drunken parties, threw out all my tobacco stuff, Stopped with the potty mouth, hungry for the word etc...- and no one told me I had to do these things, later I sought fellowship with others.

I would say I am a disciple - always seeking to please the Lord, always ready to learn, telling others of His glory, always acknowledging the remnant of sin still disturbing my life. A poor example however, I still have desires for worldly stuff. I have a Buick Park Avenue but I long for a Park Avenue Ultra (with a supercharged engine).

Fifty four years walking with the Lord, yes I've stumbled but he has always picked me up and set me back on the straight and narrow.

However I don't expect a big reward, eternal life with Him will do just fine.

HankD

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Don't forget I'm from another generation. And yes, when I was boy I got my first glimpse of a 1952 Buick Roadmaster at the General Motors Motorama and it was love at first sight.

It is a definite problem area in my life - my wife is jealous of my car, I don't know what she will do if I get a Park Avenue Ultra.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=1952+buick

HankD

 

I also had a great fondness for the Oldsmobile Super 88 Rocket 88 or Oldsmobile 98.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=1952+oldsmobile

Oops, I've gone off subject.

HankD

 

Great cars! If I were now ever to go over to Ford products (I did own a Thunderbird once) I would like to find a good Lincoln Town Car or a Ford LTD Crown Vic.

OK EWF I realize we have made a complete departure from the O/P but this is really important stuff!


HankD