Featured Southern Baptist leader: Donald Trump a ‘lost’ soul’ who must repent

Did you (can you?) read the thread title?

"Donald Trump is a lost soul who must repent".

Since he says he's not asked God for forgiveness, which I put down as he's never repented, I would say that yes, he's a lost soul that needs to repent. Do you agree with this or not? It is the subject of this thread, after all.

 

ITL, I would gladly put all personal attacks aside and have a logically reasoned ethical debate Zaac about the following:

But, you know and I know the tactics he will resort to avoid reasoning for the truth. You may attempt to condone his actions on this board while he goes about spewing such ignorant garbage and calling it biblical but I will not. I merely mimicked his type of argument above and even wrote a disclaimer about its true value and you follow by coming to defend him (from the mockery of the very tactics he uses) and playing the martyr for you and him This should be your and the other readers here first clue of what I was addressing with that satire and why.

Again, I would love to have an ethical debate about Zaac's offensive and incredibly ignorant argumentative rant he gave above against anti-abortion but if you don't understand that he would never allow for an ethical reasoned debate on the subject then you don't know him, understand his arguments methods and games nearly as well as you put on. I can only hope you are not on the same path.

 

Zaac is pro-life, which, in his case means he's anti-abortion and anti-death penalty. Start a (another) thread on the death penalty and engage him.

 

If you believe his arguments against anti-abortion, which is typically backed by a purely fallacious false dilemma as I pointed out and to which he quickly responded to with more foolishness that "he doesn't have to reason for truth" is some kind of proof of him being "pro-life" then both of you seriously need to learn some critical thinking skills before attempting to debate this subject with me. Not to mention the vast Biblical ignorance it displays backed with the same poor reasoning skills. I am not interested in the unprofitable games of senseless argument allowed to him on this board that by his own admission is not geared toward drawing out the truth!!

If you think this demonstrates an argument from someone with the least bit of critical thinking skills and/or is sincerely interested in getting to the truth rather than an agenda of simply putting down a ignorant fight against Christians to fight against anti-abortion on an internet forum then you have a long way to go buddy before trying to correct my response to his nonsense:

I don't have time to play with the foolish argumentative games he considers a "debate". I have much better uses for my time than trying to break that garbage down while he continues with his agenda of trolling here...

 

If that kind of garbage was presented in a philosophy debate class as an argument they would wonder if it was supposed to be some kind of joke!! Sadly, some here appreciate it.

 

Nothing to DENY ... no basis of facts within your rant filled, judgmental, insulting response!!

 

I AGREED .... you called this one right! He does not debate; he is constantly u his responses to provoke others, insult others and establish higher spiritual ground!

 

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Wasn't the point of your conclusion, and that's what I'm dealing with, Zaac.

 

Yeah. So's CBT.

 

I cannot speak for Others (though I am confident that many would agree), but the distinction is innocence. A condemned murderer who has violated the laws of his society deserves his punishment. A Baby who has not yet been born has not.

I suspect that you understand the reasoning but ignore it because it does not fit your argument.

 

Offend Our Lord's Law, be subject to Its penalty/His mercy. Offend society's law, be subject to its penalty/mercy.

It is not difficult for most to understand.

 

maybe because the Lord Himself has stated to us what his views are on this subject, and that you are on the wrong side on this issue, just as you are also going against God on issues like gays/Lesbian/Transgener "rights"...

 

Does God consider a marriage between a man/man or a woman/woman then as being in a Covenant relationship, in same fashion as between a man and a woman?

And WHY would you even want this nation to go down this pathway of legitimizing all sorts of abominable practices, as every nation who did that in history fell apart!

And why would it be wrong to have a murderer put to death for his crimes, for paul stated to us in Romans the God has ordained that right unto the govt, and that was after the Cross!

 

Spiritual v. temporal, Zaac.

Ridiculous question. Why would you think that I would hide John 3:16 from anyone?

 

It is evident you lack the most important piece of fruit named in the NT: LOVE! Let me remind you of what Love is ... try eating from it's bowl, and emulating its manifestation when speaking to, addressing or even debating others on this board!

So, no matter what I say, what I believe, and what I do, I’m bankrupt without love.​

Love never gives up.
Love cares more for others than for self.
Love doesn’t want what it doesn’t have.
Love doesn’t strut,
Doesn’t have a swelled head,
Doesn’t force itself on others,
Isn’t always “me first,”
Doesn’t fly off the handle,
Doesn’t keep score of the sins of others,
Doesn’t revel when others grovel,
Takes pleasure in the flowering of truth,
Puts up with anything,
Trusts God always,
Always looks for the best,
Never looks back,
But keeps going to the end.
1 Co. 13:6-7​

Once you return to the basics son, you will be able to cast your judgments towards other in a civil, cordial manner.If you are truly operating out of LOVE, I think your days of snarky, insulting comments will all but be gone!

I'm calling you out to start practicing what the Bible teaches about love! I hope this isn't responded to with more snarkiness, and or torn apart and responded to in a way that doesn't reflect the God, ALL of us serve and love! You don't have a monopoly on God, brother. your form of debating has long ago moved out of the arena of love, and into an arena of distasteful name-calling; innuendos; and vitriol, which is a shame because I see you as being intelligent and more than capable of presenting a view that doesn't need to insult the intelligence or the beliefs of those you attack without just cause!

I pray you can find your way back to civil debating, because it will help you and the board in the long run! Shalom!