1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured Southern Baptist leader: Donald Trump a ‘lost’ soul’ who must repent

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Zaac, Jun 6, 2016.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    11,154
    Likes Received:
    242
    Faith:
    Baptist
    For every finger of accusation you point in my direction, you have three remaining on your hand pointing right back at you. If I am a bigot declaring false witness against "that man" what does that make you? Your response is shameful, Zaac, and it does not adequately answer my accusations, it amounts to little more than an angry, hateful rant against facts that I provided.

    Show me how Obama wasn't involved in, and didn't have a hand in and input into the transgender use of the restrooms and showers of the gender they IDENTIFY with? Show me where Obama didn't CHAMPION the cause for gay marriages? Show me where he didn't PROMISE Americans that they could keep their doctor if they liked their doctor? Or where he did promise Americans that their insurance would cost less than what they were paying upon the implementation of Obamcare? Show me where Obama hasn't been behind the stripping down of our military?

    Facts are what you always lack. And in place of facts come snarky comments, judgement, insults and worse yet, you continue to insinuate that others on this board may not be saved and following the Lord because we lean in a different direction then you.
     
  2. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    11,154
    Likes Received:
    242
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You say tomato, I say tomatoe ... you say "disgusting" and I say "disheartening!" I don't understand how he gets away with questioning the salvation and relationship that members have with Jesus based on our being conservative?

    That was an outstanding observation, Benjamin.
     
  3. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2012
    Messages:
    13,757
    Likes Received:
    222
    Oh so it's accusations and not questions. Well that's not worth the time of day. You just admitted that you're just running around saying stuff with no basis in the truth. That's what's shameful. But you are consistent.

    You salivate with bigotry in your accusations. There was a move in darn near every state for this just as there had been with same sex marriage.

    Show me where the President had any involvement in the push for these bills? Bigoted accusation #1 shot down.
    On June 26, 2015 when the
    United States Supreme Court ruled in Obergefell v. Hodges that state-level bans on same-sex marriage are unconstitutional. Take your bigotry up with the Supreme Court.

    Accusation #2 dismissed.

    Gosh one would think the radical right picked that out all by itself if one didn't know that it came from the Fox News mothership and it's lineup of talk tv minions.

    But he's owned that foolishness.


    Easy. When he didn't promise it to ALL Americans.

    Another easy one. When a Republican led Congress approved the cuts.
    Man hush. You've presented one factual comment in that litany of pure foolishness.

    Sounds like you're speaking of your habits.
     
  4. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    It is evident from this post that you are pro-abortion. When you marginalize the mutilation of innocents as a political issue, and make justice done upon the guilty the crime, you are calling evil good, and good evil, and you accuse God of unrighteousness.

    But, you know this. You know it, and you do it anyway. Do you think anyone here can't see through the specious mask of concern for souls?

    . . . anyone except the moderators, that is . . .

    You glorify Sodom and ridicule Christ's body over and over and over. Who do you think you are to lay anything at all to the charge of God's elect? There is one who is called the accuser of the brethren, and there is One who said that people do the works of their fathers. You're treading on thin ice.

    So, for what it's worth, I'm calling you out. You are pro-abortion and pro-Sodom, and every "anti" that that implies. I see it, even if the moderators can't . . . BUT . . .

    If your continued presence on the board allows me to raise my sword against Sodom in the open forums,* then I'm happy to engage you over, and over and over.

    I wait with eager anticipation to see the twisted conglomeration of words you spin in response. Going to get some popcorn . . .

    *Because those who understand the times know that is where the battle is, and keeping the discussion of sexuality out of the open forums doesn't really protect youngsters. They are bombarded daily with the perversions, and prohibited here from learning the truth and gaining the tools to fight them.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    11,154
    Likes Received:
    242
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Borrowing a phrase from Reagan: "There you troll (maybe it is 'go') again!"
     
  6. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2012
    Messages:
    13,757
    Likes Received:
    222
    Naah. It's much more disgusting how folks who have been shown mercy don't advocate it for others. THAT is disgusting.

    Again, save the hypocrisy. You didn't address the Christian concluding with accusations on Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

    Save your dimestore philosophy excuses. They carry no weight in the face of God's truth.

    And again, you sound like many of the completely asinine if you think God who does not author confusion is against the taking of one life and for the taking of another after what transpired on The Cross.

    Justifiable killing of a murderer? In accordance with Scripture, you and I are guilty of breaking every one of God's Commandments.I'm a murderer. You're a murderer too. Yet Christ on the Cross has extended His grace and mercy to us and kept us from death and an eternal lake of fire that separates from Him.

    How dare you or anyone else calling themselves a follower of Christ advocate death for someone when Scripture says you're just as guilty of breaking the same law? The hypocrisy stinks right up to the nose of Christ.

    10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,”also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.


    12 Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, 13 because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment. James 2:10-13


    Is YOUR sin not worthy of death?

    The only thing becoming more and more evident is the continued blinding by politics of a lot of folks who call themselves Christians.

    So answer the questions oh ye who dares speak of false attacks and my spiritual condition. Is YOUR sin not worthy of YOUR death? Why are you STILL alive? Why do you think YOUR sin makes YOU any less deserving of death than the one you say is justifiably murdered?

    I don't have to reason with you for a truth the word of God has already given and examples again and again, most noticeably, with The Cross.

    You couldn't BIBLICALLY correct the truth delivered from God if you tried. It is YOU and those like you who continue in this foolish hypocritical confusion not created of God who shouldn't fool anyone.

    And perhaps this unrepentant wickedness that the likes of you and yours continue to try and justify is a primary reason why GOD continues to slap the arrogant disobedience of you and yours around by continuing to give you one wicked leader after another. So don't try to attach your wicked hypocrisy of being against the government killing babies while you advocate the same wicked government killing adults.

    Shall God in heaven continue to confound the wickedness of your politics that you arrogantly try to equate to His word.

    I know. You could have kept your mouth closed and not put on full display the depths of your wicked hypocritical arrogance against God's word.
     
  7. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2012
    Messages:
    13,757
    Likes Received:
    222
    Didn't deny the truth of my statements, did ya?
     
  8. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    He has said that he has never asked God for forgiveness and if he does he hopes it won't be for much.

    Baloney. He says “When I drink my little wine — which is about the only wine I drink — and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,”

    And he does this so often that he didn't recognize the bread dish and thinking it was the offering plate put money in it.

    Donald Trump accidentally put money in the Communion plate at a church in Iowa
    http://wapo.st/1SxJwL8

    He's never asked God for forgiveness and doesn't know what a communion tray looks like. That's not enough? The amount of energy that Christians expend rationalizing their vote for Trump is breathtaking.



    Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.
     
  9. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Yes, we're all aware of the doublespeak. It's a classic Socialist device, selling slavery cloaked in piety and philanthropy. Its a bunch [edited].

    Go belch your subterfuge some place else.
     
  10. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    So?
     
  11. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Hint for the thick-headed: Read the thread title.

    Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.
     
  12. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You're saying that disqualifies him from office? You brought it up talking about votes.
     
  13. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I did? You might want to try Hooked on Phonics. It's supposed to help with reading comprehension.

    Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.
     
  14. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2012
    Messages:
    13,757
    Likes Received:
    222
    [​IMG]
     
  15. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    8,438
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Yes, not surprised at your lack of interest in it.

    (Pro 13:16) Every prudent man dealeth with knowledge: but a fool layeth open his folly.

    (Pro 10:23) It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.
     
  16. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    8,438
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Zaac, your very obvious and telling obsession with defending the evil Democratic Party and its devil of a Presidential candidate, godless Hillary, along with continually attacking the conservatives of the Republican Party is rooted in pure wickedness.

    You should know that your clearly observable and spiritually unprofitable itinerary of defending what you perceive is the superior moral understanding of worldly values is not well hidden behind your disingenuous denials of not having this preoccupation of trying to support radical left-wing liberalism.

    You need to learn to trust Jesus and cease this mania driven, wickedly dishonorable agenda of going about this as if it were not the case while in your deceit, which you will be judged for.

    Trump is going to win the Presidency and you will be dangerously bound to idolatry in worshipping a martyred Party and its failed leader for years to come, all because of your fear of Trump.

    Perhaps, it is time that you should heed the words of the arguments from your agenda’s co-conspirators and yourself about "reassurance" concerning complaints that the world would greatly suffer under Obama’s leadership and although this is in most part is true, it, as you said is also true that "we in fact have survived", so take your own advice and stop putting your hope in the losing Radical Left-Wing Party and start putting your hope in Jesus. You might feel better.

    Disclaimer: The above rhetorical arguments, which are an example of the bulk of Zaac’s ad nauseum “debate” practices on the board, are not meant to have any supported truth value other than to display that reversing his arguments demonstrates how absurd his perception of himself trying to mock Christian' discernment is.
     
  17. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    8,438
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Well, it seems then very clear that you have everything you need to know his heart so who am I to dare to question [​IMG] Your [​IMG] judgment in the matter of his salvation?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    24,988
    Likes Received:
    2,268
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You're one of the many on BB that have a visceral reaction to Zaac's posts. I was like that once, too. If you (and others) would bother to read what he says in entirety instead of immediately reacting to portions of what you read, you will see that he doesn't defend the Democrats or Republicans. He's an equal opportunity critic. I can relate to this because I'm somewhat the same. There is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle (though there is more on the Dems side) and whenever anyone, me included, point out the flaws on the right, we get attacked and labeled as being liberals.

    Another thing that we both do, and it drives people here crazy, is we point out flaws in arguments used against the left. Benjamin, I would think you of all people, someone that understands logic and poor arguments would realize this. So when Zaac and I point out the garbage tactics that Faux News, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, et al use to make their "arguments" we get roundly booed. There's no discussion if we bring up Slate, MSNBC, or Huffington Post's lazy reporting and smear tactics, they are well understood by people here. It seems that people on BB find it inconceivable that the right would use the same tactics. Well, they do.
     
  19. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Let's try this again . . .

    So?
     
  20. Aaron

    Aaron Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2000
    Messages:
    20,253
    Likes Received:
    1,381
    Faith:
    Baptist
    :Cautious[edited]
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...