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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Aaron, Apr 17, 2016.

  1. Aaron

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    Anyway, Rob. Let's argue this in the Heliocentricity: Behind the Times thread. This thread is about Adam's vantage point of the heavens, and its meaning.
     
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    On that note, if the heavens were designed with the earth as their focus, would it be surprising if that purpose were seen in the structure of the universe?
     
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    I apologize if I see them all as being related.:)
     
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    Einstein made fun of it and called it "Mach's conjecture" because it was so vague and imprecise as to be meaningless.
     
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    Answered in the thread, Heliocentricity: Behind the Times.
     
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    Back on track . . .
     
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    The Uncertain Speed of Light
    by Henry M. Morris, Ph.D.


    . . . actual geometric measurements of star distances are possible only out to about 300 light years. Greater distances are mere "guesstimates" based on a series of assumptions.

    The problem is that one would almost have to be a Ph.D. in theoretical physics even to comprehend the physics and mathematics involved in this argument. That raises the question: would God expect ordinary people to depend on theoretical physics to determine whether or not they could believe the Bible?

    . . .

    Why should we pay any attention at all to these cosmological speculations? No one outside this professional clique of specialists in higher mathematics and theoretical physics can really understand them— especially when they disagree with each other and repeatedly revise their theories anyway.

    On the other hand, we have the very record of the Creator Himself, who is surely capable of writing in plain language about His creation and telling about it simply and clearly to all us ordinary people who really want to know. We need to take seriously His statement that He "rested" at the end of creation week from His work of creating and making all things. This means that we cannot legitimately apply His present-day processes for conserving what He had created to the study of His processes of creation.

    https://www.icr.org/article/498/245

     
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    The question in another form is: Did the skies hold any meaning for Adam?

    If so, why wasn't he given a telescope?
     
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    Zombie thread! Of course, with the ongoing flat earth thread, I should have known the season for heliocentricity wws fast approaching.
    :)

    My gut reaction is...the skies held meaning to the Magi, did they need a telescope?
     
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    Why wasn't he given a spaceship? Or the ability to fly like Superman?




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    That's a huge assumption that the Planet Earth is the focus of the heavens.

    We don't know enough about the plans that God has for eternity to know if the Planet Earth is the focus of the eternal created order.
     
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    Was that what they were trying yo make in Gen 11? :)

    posted before reading all of thread.
     
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    It's not an assumption if one believes the stars were created to give light upon the earth as it is written.
     
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    Obviously because he wasn't originally intended to visit the stars. Do you have a response to the first question?
     
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    Using that logic, apparently he wasn't originally intended to wear clothes either. Or live indoors. Or read a book. Cook food. Etc. Etc.



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    Originally, yes. Now, care to respond to the first question?
     
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    Nope.

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    I'm not surprised, because it's a question of faith.
     
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    What is the source for this assertion?

    I have always understood that Hubble observed that galaxies are moving away from each other, but NOT at a constant rate relative to earth. They appear to be moving at different velocities.
     
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    Actually, a lot of this is about presuppositions and biblical interpretation.
     
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