Does God love the lost?

What you share is universalism. Whether you can accept universalism is irrelevant. You preach it.

 

Do C followers not accept that God is gracious to all, calls all, offers to all though He knows who will not accept him (e.g. Cain) yet still makes the offer, thereby fulfilling all righteousness.

Kind of like a corollary of the Arminius foreknowledge theory.

Not that this is my view.

SW could you accept that scenario?

HankD

 

You are very intelligent Menno. I don't believe these question are troublesome that you have to attack my character.

Is the problem here that you have made God in your own image, one who uses deception and lies about desires?

I don't think so. I believe you are a honorable person and you should be able to handle these questions.



Name one person who God wants to sin against him.

Even if you don't have a name, is there someone who God wants to sin against him?


Does God desire you to sin? I guess you will never sin again.

Or is God too weak to get his own desire?



Christians can answer the above questions right away without hesitation.

A follower of a false god can't because......"their god is puny".

 

Your question is silly and unanswerable. It's like asking you to name one person who eats with his anus.
See how silly you're being?

 

So you are saying God wants no one to sin?

 

OH YEAH!... You know when I think of this song by John Newton, there is no doubt in my mind that God loves the lost... He wouldn't have done what he did if he didn't... This old song is a favorite of mine... You know it!... Sing Along... Brother Glen

Amazing grace! How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found;
Was blind, but now I see.

 

I am saying you are a silly man.

 

Every time you lose the debate you insult people.



Name one person who God wants to sin against him.

Even if you don't have a name, is there someone who God wants to sin against him?


Does God desire you to sin? I guess you will never sin again.

Or is God too weak to get his own desire?

 

I'm not debating with you. Everyone knows you are clueless in regard to Arminianism and Calvinism. You just bring silliness to the board.

 

What you are saying is:





Does God desire you to sin? <--- such a tough question.


The Command of God is CLEAR with what he wants. And his sovereignty is absolute. And you can't harmonize both things.


Does God desire you to sin? I guess you will never sin again.

Or is God too weak to get his own desire?


A christian can answer this easily.

 

Nope. I'm saying you are silly.

 

I'm just going to enjoy this steamroll over you.

 

Mark 4
14“The sower sows the word. 15“These are the ones who are beside the road where the word is sown; and when they hear, immediately Satan comes and takes away the word which has been sown in them.


So umm..... Why would Satan come and take away the word when it is already naturally rejected by mankind?

Did Satan not get the memo that all are totally depraved?

 

I bet you know all the answers to your silly questions. I'll wait for you to show me scripture answering each question you ask.

 

Tags and boxes are no reason

 

However you define love, two mutually exclusive acts can't point to love. God loves in choosing and He loves for not choosing some. That's pure unadulterated nonsense

 

Everything you're saying I'm in agreement. But my point is His love as we know/comprehend it being demonstrated in choosing can't equally be demonstrated in not choosing.

That's essentially saying God is Love His choices notwithstanding. And in that case, you can't appeal to His choices to demonstrate love

The 'totally uncalled' were a nypothetical example and I mentioned as such. No need correcting it. That's an unnecessary distraction.

 

You're getting it. There's some degree or dimension of love of God totally absent or not exhibited towards the perishing.

And that is what OP is asking. Can the perishing and the saved rightfully claim to be recipients of God's love in equal measure? The answer is no.

 

I'm not a universalist.

Why does it give you such immense joy to distract by stereotypes and tags? Is it to make me waste time defending myself instead of focusing on the the weight of your response to the subject question?

 

I believe this. But if we are not drawn to God in equal measure as some propagate (general global call vs effectual limited call), those who miss on the effectual call can't possibly say God loves them, especially if God's love is demonstrated by His effectual call