What is Your View of The Atonement By Jesus Christ?

The wrath of God is directed upon sin and sinners, due to him being by very nature holy, correct?

 

Have you?

Perhaps I am not remembering correctly, but was there abundant Scriptures posted by you?

I am not attempting to demean, but to honestly ask.

Because I might have switched your response and confused it with another poster who has yet to show much Scriptures in contention on this matter.

Like yesterday, I woke up not remembering how to spell "maybe."

Seriously! I had to consult my dictionary!

So, it would not be out of disregard or disparage I ask, it is to exercise the recall.

 

My view of the "Atonement of Jesus Christ" is two-fold. First, what Jesus accomplished when He died on the cross, and second, what is accomplished when God transfers a sinner into the kingdom of His Son. Theories that conflate these two very different accomplishments just confuse the issue and hinder truth.

First we must ask, who did Jesus die for, all mankind or just the previously chosen elect individuals? The answer of course is both, Christ died as a ransom for all which includes saved and to be saved as well as those unsaved. When Christ died, He became the propitiation or means of salvation for the whole world, 1 John 2:2. John uses "world" to refer to fallen mankind. When God accepted His sacrifice, He became the means of salvation from God's wrath, hence the propitiation for the sins of the whole world. His substutionary sacrifice paid the price for everyone's sins, such that anyone and everyone transferred into Christ is forgiven and their sin burden (what God holds against that individual) is removed by the circumcision of Christ. When they are transferred into Christ, and undergo the washing of regeneration (they are made alive together with Christ) the are "at one" with Christ.

When you see the word "atonement" in a text, put "subsititutionary sacrifice" next to it if what Christ accomplished on the cross is in view, and put "reconciliation" next to it if what is accomplished when God transfers an individual into Christ is in view.

 

Psalm 7:11. Ask Jonathen Edwards on this topic!

 

I have mentioned Jesus in the garden, various times Cup/Bowl of wrath wassin the scriptures, and Isaiah 53.

 

If you think God transfers everyone into Christ, then you need to support that biblically. If you cannot, then you are misrepresenting my view of the word "atonement."

I did not address the basis God uses to choose individuals and transfer them into Christ.

Please address my actual view which is in direct response to your opening post.

 

Thank you!

 

Just to clarify.

Do you place repentance is a must to have salvation granted, or is it the result of being granted?

Do you place faith as humanly attained, or do you place faith as that gift endowed by God?

 

I did not see you withdraw your false and misleading representation of my view. Truth matters. If you want to learn what the bible says, you must interact with truth.

What is the basis God uses to choose individuals and transfer them into Christ? Do not tell me what your opinion is, but rather what scripture says, such as 2 Thessalonians 2:13, or James 2:5?

 

There are certain things that God cannot do; He cannot deny Himself. He cannot be other that angry with sinners, but His wrath is not arbitrary; it is a settled and righteous anger (Psalm 7:11) against sin and sinners. Your smokescreen concerning sin and sinners is, as I've stated so many times before, a false dichotomy. 'For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust [sinners]' (1 Peter 3:18).