Featured War On The Sinner's Prayer by Paul Washer

VERY inconsistent IMO.

HankD

 

Knowing Paul Washer the way I do, I am confident he was calling out the error inherent in the sinner's prayer. Washer does not believe a person who prays the prayer is not saved. He believes the prayer does not save. Sinner's are saved in spite of the prayer, not because of it. To make that point, as he does others, he speaks in definite terms that are often misunderstood. It probably didn't enter his mind to qualify his statements for those on a message board who are intent on dissecting his words.

In the Reformed tradition we are looking more at one's confession and evidence of faith. Words alone are insufficient. Preachers like Charles Finney were skilled at illiciting "decisions for Christ" with many of their "converts" going back to the world.

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Paul opens 1 Cor mentioning that the believers are sanctified. [positionally] This includes the worldly (carnal) Christians of Chap. 3. These ones are still babes in Christ. [born again, but with little or no growth] "Every man's work shall be made manifest:...revealed by fire...If any man's work abide...he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." vss. 1-3, 13-15.

Babes in Christ have a likeness of Him. But when He appears, all believers will look just like Him! (Php 3:21; 1 Jn 3:2)

Rewards (of great value) will be given to the mature, faithful, and holy believers for their service on earth.

 

Oh yes. God's sovereignty does not override man's responsibility. God's elect will certainly be saved (John 6:39), but they will not be saved without someone bringing the truth to them (Romans 10:14-15). Exactly how that works, I don't know, but it's what the Bible teaches

 

why is Calvinism so important, when it is Biblically unsound?

 

How can you call him an idiot?

 

It's a mystery. The last refuge of the Calvinist when their theological position is put into a corner.

 

don't forget the "non-elect", many who will also be saved!

 

So, God is responsible for the salvation of the elect. They respond, only because of His inward working. None of them will be lost for any reason. God's Will is unstoppable. HE will use every means to reach the elect, some means only He knows in His Great Omniscience. The Bible is His revealed Will. His Sovereign Will includes this and that which is known only to Him.

 

So the "elect" are no more than a bunch of puppets!

 

In the Old Testament, the Jewish Nation were God's "elect". Yet, we have examples, like the people of Nineveh, who were not part of this "elect" people, also obtain slavation from God. We have Rahab, who also was not Jewish, and yet she is part of the family line of Jesus Christ! I think "ἐκλεκτός" is taken too far by the likes of Calvinists, because of "theology" rather than what the Bible actually teaches!

 

You sadly forget that the OT saints (elect), are all of whom you mention above.

Specifically, Rahab had faith (Heb 11:31). Where does faith come from? Isn't it a gift from the Sovereign God? She then, is ELECT!

 

don't fudge it! she could NOT be "elect" as the Old Testament clearly says ONLY the Jewish Nation were! What about the 1000's from Nineveh?

 

I'll go one better. How about the Gentiles, who are defenitely NOT Jews, and yet MILLIONS have been, and are being, and will be saved! They are not part of God's original "elect", which is very clearly, ONLY the Jewish nation!

 

What a terrible memory! ALL of God's elect, jew and gentile, are part of God's Vine! (Rom 11) !!

 

you fail to conprehend the fact, that God's ORININAL "elect" were NOT the "Gentiles", that is why it says, "to the Jew first...2"!!!

"He came to His own", (John 1:12) JEWS!

 

I don't think you understand predestination and foreknowledge.