Preterism remains false - Did Jesus lie? NO!

MMRRPP! WRONG!

The AC will be ONE MAN. And the temple of God to which Paul was referring will be in Jerusalem.

And are you forgetting the jeezits made preterism popular? they relied upon people not knowing history.

No pope ever had a miracle-working false prophet as his deputy. No pope was ever cast alive into the lake of fire. No pope ever gathered an army to fight against Jesus. No pope ever issued any marka the beast. On & on. for antichrist crtieria not fulfilled by any pope.

 

Sorry, Captain, but those events simply HAVEN'T YET HAPPENED, after the destruction of J & the temple, which was part of the "days of vengeance", not the return of Jesus. You cannot prove otherwise.

 

i haven't changed a thing, nor have I ever set a date for the parousia. OTOH, the PRETERIST has the burden of proof. The pret needsta show us the prophesied eschatological events have indeed already occurred, or his doctrine remains phony as a Ford Corvette. So far, the prets' record equals that of the Cleveland Browns thru 12/5/2017.

 

I've posted it once, & am NOT gonna repeat it.

 

The Olivet Discourse.

That's obvious because the eschatological events haven't yet happened.

 

No, it DIDN'T! You CANNOT prove it has!

You CANNOT -

tell us the name of the antichrist, nor that of his false prophet
describe the marka the beast
tell us when all life in the seas died, or when all green grass was burned up
when the AOD was committed
or when Jesus returned in the manner HE HIMSELF said.

So, preterism remains phony as a Ford Corvette!

 

that article itself contains a false doctrine - THE KJVO MYTH. That dactrine is as false as preterism.

 

Well, for not being a preterist, you sure do defend some of their doctrines a lot! But I'll take your word for it - for now.

First, what I repeat is the MAIN POINT of preterism - Prets say all the eschatological events have already been fulfilled, but not one of'em has presented one quark of PROOF! Talk is cheap; anyone can say anything, but SAYING it does not make it SO! I've been an amateur historian for many years, & the events prets SAY have already occurred are totally-absent from history! Thus, I demand they PROVE those events have already occurred, or simply admit they haven't, and admit they were deceived. (No disgrace to be deceived by Satan; I once was, almost abandoning my Baptist faith for Herbie Armstrong's "Worldwide Church of God". Praise be to the HOLY SPIRIT for opening my eyes in time!) And I want other Christians to see why preterism is so hollow; it's a doctrine its proselytes CANNOT PROVE!

Now, I'm gonna make an exception for you & post my view of Daniel 9, & in more detail than I did before.

I believe we've all seen many of the umpteen explanations of the 69 weex, or 483 years, so we can dispense with that. (I believe Jesus was born C. 6 BC,Explanation in another forum.) We know His ministry was about 3.5 years long.

Let's consider this verse: Dan. 9:26“And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

Please note the PEOPLE of that coming prince shall perform the destruction. There's NOTHING saying that prince would be among those people at that time. Some people wanna say Titus was that prince, as his father Vespasian was then Caesar, & Titus succeeded him. But Titus did NOT fulfill many of the criteria for the "beast". He did not overthrow 3 other rulers to become Caesar. He did not receive a deadly head wound & survive it. He didn't have a false prophet as a deputy. He worshipped the Roman pantheon of gods/goddesses, while the 'beast' won't worship anyone or anything; he will only demand to be worshipped. He did not set up his statue in the temple. (The temple was destroyed against his orders while he was tending to other matters during the battle.) And, of course, Titus was NOT cast alive into gehenna! He died of a fever, in fronta witnesses.

(I believe the beast, antichrist, man of sin, & the prince of Daniel 9:26 will all be the same man.)

As for the "flood", I believe it was the flood of Romans who marched thru Judea. And there were other towns & cities of the Jews desolated during that war.

if you have any more questions for me about Dan. 9, feel freeta ask!

 

My slang for jesuits

 

I have been a dedicated opponent of the KJVO myth even longer than I have been of preterism. It's just another man-made false doctrine, used by Satan to create strife & dissent between and within congregations. It doesn't have one blip of SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT. I have posted the man-made origin of the current version of that myth in the "Bible versions/translations" sub-forum here.

And, BTW, just as you say you're not a pret, I am not a duspy. I believe in three dispensations:

Old Covenant
New Covenant
The world to come
And that's it!