Preterism remains false - Did Jesus lie? NO!

I believe the antichrist/man of sin/beast will come to power, & all the eschatological events upta the return of Jesus will occur. Jesus will return at the end of that time.

The coming of that man to power will be the budding of the fig tree in Jesus' analogy.

 

I believe the Jews of old Jerusalem were held to account for the murders of many righteous people. Jesus said the Jews of His human generation would be held accountable for the murders of all righteous up til that time, from Abel onward. And, of course, the Jewish leadership of Jerusalem added the murder of Jesus Himself to their sins.

But Jesus, by His authority and by His sacrifice, gave a way of forgiveness of all their sins to those people who would come to Him in belief, repentance, and obedience.

And another transgression was the FALSE WORSHIP of that time, with most of the priesthood, Pharisees, & Sanhedrin being corrupt. (There were exceptions, of course, such as Zacharias & possibly Gamaliel) Jesus replaced that system with the New Covenant. While the false worship continued, & continues to this very day, the "official" & CORRECT form of worship is according to the New Covenant, which Jesus established & sealed with His own death.

 

Oh, REALLY?

WHO ELSE COULD THAT PRINCE BE?

Scripture doesn't say "A" prince - it sez "THE" prince. Therefore, it's about a particular prince who's gonna be prominent in Jewish history after his people destroy J & the temple, which were then future events.

And let us not forget the 11th horn of the beast of Daniel 7, that arose among its original 10 horns & uprooted three of them.

 

Go ahead. You might well be right.

 

While many popes have been antichrists, so have many non-popes and non-catholix. But NONE has yet been "THE" particular antichrist. There have also been many "men of sin" since there have been men, but NONE has been "THE" man of sin mentioned by paul & others.

And I'm not ruling out that a pope or other high RC official could become the false prophet, the "beast from the earth". Rev. 17 indicated the RCC will be closely involved with the "man of sin" at first, but that he will turn on them when their usefulness to him is over.

Big difference there. The eschatological events are prophesied IN SCRIPTURE, and Scripture, as originally written, is always 100% right. There was no human indication that J & the temple were gonna be destroyed when jesus prophesied they would be, but it happened. same with the "days of vengeance". At the time Jesus prophesied them, the Jewish political & religious leadership was in thick with the local Roman rulers, such as Valerius Gratus(who appointed Caiaphas as High Priest, & who was succeeded by Pontius Pilate) and, of course, Pilate himself.

PLENTY of basis, from Daniel 7 thru Rev. 13.

Care to name another candidate for the prince of Daniel 9:26?

Why not? The beginning of Jesus' ministry marked the beginning of the 484th year, & this ministry only lasted 3.5 years, leaving the other 3.5 years to yet be fulfilled. Remember the enormity of the plagues of the trib, especially as set forth in Rev. 16. No flesh could survive 3.5 years of THOSE plagues, let alone SEVEN YEARS of them! With all life in the seas destroyed, & all green grass burned up, almost all the animals & fish man depends on for food will be gone as well, as will wheat, barley, rice, etc. which are grasses. I believe Jesus will end the trib before man's food stores run out, but still, many will starve. War, famine, & disease will be rampant. But Jesus will come & save man from extermination.

No, that was NOT the great trib! There have been MANY worse events! You cannot deny THAT![/QUOTE]

 

You wished to discussed them one at a time, so I'm honoring your request. If you're ready to move on, please tell me which one you wanna tackle next.

 

My late dad said, "The basis of pseudo-Christian cults & false doctrines is man's ADDING NEW MEANINGS to Scripture insteada believing what it actually sez."