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I'm a Calvinist. Change My Mind.

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by thatbrian, Jan 4, 2018.

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  1. InTheLight

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    Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. And it was posted by YOU:

    Receiving a gift is not also part of the giving

    This was barely 90 days ago. You will note that Iconoclast (Calvinist) liked it; agedman ([mostly] Reformed) agreed with it; SovereignGrace (Calvinist) marked it a winner. So, I'm sticking with my assertion that Calvinists believe that regeneration frees the 'bondage of the will' and allows one to make free will decisions.

    Wrong.
     
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  2. Saved-By-Grace

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    about sums up what Calvinist/Reformed are like!
     
  3. HeirofSalvation

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    I recant everything
    You're right John
    Please accept my sincerest apologies.

    I'm out.
     
  4. JohnDeereFan

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    Good. Now run along. You're dismissed.
     
  5. HeirofSalvation

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    Which is an example of you "kicking against the pricks" if that is not God's will.
    God may have absolutely no desire in his Sovereign and perfect plan to "bless" him with the sanctifying grace he has bestowed upon you and therefore you have simply admitted that you have audibly wished and repeated what might be absolutely contrary to God's perfect Holy Will, which he has decreed for his glory.

    It might very well be that God is most magnified by your friends ignorance such that he may demonstrate his glory to us at his eschaton.....as he sits in corrective judgement against his foolhardiness.

    And yet...
    Contrary to God's revealed word, you have well-wished an heretic Godspeed:
    II John 1: 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

    ...Good to know that Calvinists are as staunch on defying Scripture as ever :)
     
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    Will do!!!
    Thank you for demonstrating the loving humility which is endemic to all adherents of "Calvinism"...

    By the way...

    If you graduated from an actual legitimate seminary, than

    I'm a monkey's uncle.
     
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    And thank you for demonstrating the shameless dishonesty of Arminians.
     
  8. TCassidy

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    Compassion, John. Grace, John. He admitted his error. That was big of him. Respond in kind. :)
     
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    I will keep believing the bible. Now are you saying that Paul was wrong, or incomplete in his knowledge of the Gospel? That he got it wrong, or was only half right, in 1 Corinthians 15?
     
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    Don't go blaming the Calvinist this is on me alone... And since you were not in the conversation you don't have any idea what transpired... Did I say he was a Heretic?Confused... I said he was not a Calvinist a Non-Cal... He was still a Christian!... Him and I just disagreed how we both saw scripture... You read my post wrong!:eek:... But I too forgive you we all make mistakes...Brother Glen:)
     
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    Then you post an out of context post written by me. You do understand the concept of "context" don't you? "Freeing his will" from what? Obviously from my post freeing his will from the bondage of sin and death? But did that result in "free will" or did it result in his being bound to the law of New Life in Christ? Rom 8:2 "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death." Context is your friend.

    Yes, you are. Again. Just another drive by.
     
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    By your own admission what "transpired" is, that God has so Sovereignly chosen at this point in time to not reveal for his own glorious purposes his marvelous works of sanctifying grace upon him. It is God's most wise counsel, and for his glory that your friend remain ignorant of the glorious doctrines of Grace which he has chosen to reveal to you. You have now admittedly expressed a desire which is (at least to date, and possibly forever) contrary to his greatest glory....his blessing.
    God reserves the right to bless and condemn only in the secret places which belong to him alone, and to which you are not privy what is most suitable for his purposes. It might very well be that God, in his most perfect will has absolutely contrary desires than that which you admittedly express. You "wish" something God might very well have, in his own counsel decided against...
    Happily, you fight against the pricks.
    Those are according to his most mighty and perfect will, and, you, by definition, are wishing that which is contrary to his perfect will in grace.

    Don't get mad at me.

    It's your doctrine, not mine.
     
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    Now, now, Teddy. Compassion and grace, remember?
     
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    Yeah....like I said...
    No REAL Seminary degree huh? <-like you just tried to claim..

    If you got a real one, I'm a monkey's uncle.
     
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    And lies about false Seminary degrees let's remember ;)
     
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    the same Paul also says, "God commands all men everywhere to REPENT" (Acts 17:30), following Jesus own command, "repent and believe in the Gospel" (Mark 1:15), and "unless you REPENT you will likewise perish" (Luke 13:3, 5). And Peter after his Gospel Message, "REPENT and be baptized" (Acts 2:28), etc, etc. You cannot simply turn to one passage and hope to find all of the Gospel there, unless of course if it is, and 1 Corinthians 15 is NOT all of the Gospel, because it does not in this place mention the requirement of REPENTANCE. You might think like some do, that this is not a pre-requirement for any sinner to be saved. I disagree as the Bible in the Old and New Testaments say that they MUST. Without REPENTANCE first, there can be no "regeneration"

    Good night from England...
     
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    "dishonesty of Arminians"? :Roflmao
     
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    That I choose not to reveal personal information to you doesn't mean it isn't true.

    Don't believe me? Don't care.
     
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    Correct.
    It's the fact that it isn't actually true which makes it untrue.
    No.
    Yes you do.
     
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    So you are saying that Paul made a mistake in 1 Cor 15?
     
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