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I'm a Calvinist. Change My Mind.

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InTheLight

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TCassidy said:
Got a link for that?
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Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. And it was posted by YOU:

TCassidy said:
Regeneration is the spiritual change wrought in the heart of man by the Holy Spirit in which his/her inherently sinful nature is changed so that he/she can respond to God in Faith, and live in accordance with His Will (Matt. 19:28; John 3:3,5,7; Titus 3:5). It extends to the whole nature of man, altering his governing disposition, illuminating his mind, freeing his will, and renewing his nature.
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Receiving a gift is not also part of the giving

This was barely 90 days ago. You will note that Iconoclast (Calvinist) liked it; agedman ([mostly] Reformed) agreed with it; SovereignGrace (Calvinist) marked it a winner. So, I'm sticking with my assertion that Calvinists believe that regeneration frees the 'bondage of the will' and allows one to make free will decisions.

That's what I thought. Just another drive-by post.
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Wrong.
 
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Saved-By-Grace

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tyndale1946 said:
Brian... I'm not here to change your mind but I thought you and the other brethren of our ilk would get a kick out of this encounter I had... I was discussing scripture with a non-cal when he threw up his arms and said:... I don't know about you CALVINIST!... You're Contrary!... Pigheaded!... Hardheaded!... Bullheaded!... Cantankerous!... Ornery and Argumentative!... And I'm done talking to you!... As he was swiftly walking away, I hollered... GOD BLESS YOU!... Brother Glen:Roflmao
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about sums up what Calvinist/Reformed are like!
 
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JohnDeereFan said:
So, even though you can't point to anything I've even said about Calvinism, and even though you've admitted that I haven't said anything wrong about Calvinism, you're still going with the idiotic "you don't understand Calvinism" slander. Good to know.



And how would you make that claim, when I haven't been presented with any "quandaries"?



And yet, when asked repeatedly to show what I've said that would indicate I don't understand, you've been unable to find one example but, instead, have been forced to admit that I haven't said anything wrong about Calvinism.

It's time for you to put up or shut up. Either show us what I've said that indicates I don't understand Calvinism (or "the implications of Calvinism", as you're now trying to weasel out of your previous claim) or scurry on back to your bridge.
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I recant everything
You're right John
Please accept my sincerest apologies.

I'm out.
 
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tyndale1946 said:
As he was swiftly walking away, I hollered... GOD BLESS YOU!... Brother Glen:Roflmao
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Which is an example of you "kicking against the pricks" if that is not God's will.
God may have absolutely no desire in his Sovereign and perfect plan to "bless" him with the sanctifying grace he has bestowed upon you and therefore you have simply admitted that you have audibly wished and repeated what might be absolutely contrary to God's perfect Holy Will, which he has decreed for his glory.

It might very well be that God is most magnified by your friends ignorance such that he may demonstrate his glory to us at his eschaton.....as he sits in corrective judgement against his foolhardiness.

And yet...
Contrary to God's revealed word, you have well-wished an heretic Godspeed:
II John 1: 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

...Good to know that Calvinists are as staunch on defying Scripture as ever :)
 
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HeirofSalvation said:
Which is an example of you "kicking against the pricks" if that is not God's will.
God may have absolutely no desire in his Sovereign and perfect plan to "bless" him with the grace he has bestowed upon you and therefore you have simply admitted that you have audibly wished and repeated what might be absolutely contrary to God's perfect Holy Will, which he has decreed for his glory.

It might very well be that God is most magnified by your friends ignorance such that he may demonstrate his glory to us at his eschaton.....as he sits in corrective judgement against his foolhardiness.

And yet...
Contrary to God's revealed word, you have well-wished an heretic Godspeed:
II John 1: 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

...Good to know that Calvinists are as staunch on defying Scripture as ever :)
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Don't go blaming the Calvinist this is on me alone... And since you were not in the conversation you don't have any idea what transpired... Did I say he was a Heretic?Confused... I said he was not a Calvinist a Non-Cal... He was still a Christian!... Him and I just disagreed how we both saw scripture... You read my post wrong!:eek:... But I too forgive you we all make mistakes...Brother Glen:)
 
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InTheLight said:
I'm sticking with my assertion that Calvinists believe that regeneration frees the 'bondage of the will' and allows one to make free will decisions.
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Then you post an out of context post written by me. You do understand the concept of "context" don't you? "Freeing his will" from what? Obviously from my post freeing his will from the bondage of sin and death? But did that result in "free will" or did it result in his being bound to the law of New Life in Christ? Rom 8:2 "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death." Context is your friend.

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Wrong.
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Yes, you are. Again. Just another drive by.
 
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tyndale1946 said:
Don't go blaming the Calvinist this is on me alone... And since you were not in the conversation you don't have any idea what transpired...
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By your own admission what "transpired" is, that God has so Sovereignly chosen at this point in time to not reveal for his own glorious purposes his marvelous works of sanctifying grace upon him. It is God's most wise counsel, and for his glory that your friend remain ignorant of the glorious doctrines of Grace which he has chosen to reveal to you. You have now admittedly expressed a desire which is (at least to date, and possibly forever) contrary to his greatest glory....his blessing.
God reserves the right to bless and condemn only in the secret places which belong to him alone, and to which you are not privy what is most suitable for his purposes. It might very well be that God, in his most perfect will has absolutely contrary desires than that which you admittedly express. You "wish" something God might very well have, in his own counsel decided against...
Happily, you fight against the pricks.
Those are according to his most mighty and perfect will, and, you, by definition, are wishing that which is contrary to his perfect will in grace.

Don't get mad at me.

It's your doctrine, not mine.
 
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TCassidy said:
Then you post an out of context post written by me. You do understand the concept of "context" don't you? "Freeing his will" from what? Obviously from my post freeing his will from the bondage of sin and death? But did that result in "free will" or did it result in his being bound to the law of New Life in Christ? Rom 8:2 "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death." Context is your friend.

Yes, you are. Again. Just another drive by.
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Now, now, Teddy. Compassion and grace, remember?
 
Saved-By-Grace

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TCassidy said:
I will keep believing the bible. Now are you saying that Paul was wrong, or incomplete in his knowledge of the Gospel? That he got it wrong, or was only half right, in 1 Corinthians 15?
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the same Paul also says, "God commands all men everywhere to REPENT" (Acts 17:30), following Jesus own command, "repent and believe in the Gospel" (Mark 1:15), and "unless you REPENT you will likewise perish" (Luke 13:3, 5). And Peter after his Gospel Message, "REPENT and be baptized" (Acts 2:28), etc, etc. You cannot simply turn to one passage and hope to find all of the Gospel there, unless of course if it is, and 1 Corinthians 15 is NOT all of the Gospel, because it does not in this place mention the requirement of REPENTANCE. You might think like some do, that this is not a pre-requirement for any sinner to be saved. I disagree as the Bible in the Old and New Testaments say that they MUST. Without REPENTANCE first, there can be no "regeneration"

Good night from England...
 
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