I'm a Calvinist. Change My Mind.

Do you really understand what "election" in Calvinism really is? It is very simply this. God, before the world was created, "chose" (elected) some to salvation, not based on any good that they have done, but His own mercy and good-pleasure. This "transaction" was completed before creation and without the "will" of that elect person, as they were not even born when this takes place! Show where I am wrong in this? You are also wrong about men's "wills", which again in Calvinism is in "bondage", as a dead person who can do nothing, they can do nothing! Your understanding is very faulty!

 

you are obviously speaking to the wrong people!

 

Hey, come on, now! The Finneyists have all the great theologians! Joel Osteen, Ed Young, Jr, Paula White, etc.

 

...T D Jakes, Rick Warren...

 

Incidentally, as I'm here, I also have another window open and am on Facebook. I just got blocked by a church for asking questions about their church.

Surprise, it was a Finneyist church.

Any church that is afraid to answer some basic questions about their church is not a healthy church.

 

I hope you have learned some truths? If not, then can you show me where I am wrong?

 

Now, I know that his son Andy is into heresy, but I thought that CS was ok?

 

I know.
Hence, why I expressed some confusion about what exactly your purpose was.

More accurately, arguments can be used as means.

Yes, it is.
I realize that Calvinists deny this; often by appealing to the notion that God's will (in lieu of "fates" or pagan entities) are behind the determination of all things. But, that's an irrelevant point, which, while it can be happily conceded (and usually is) still renders Calvinism fatalism in the most important sense. It's like denying that Christmas trees are trees, because they are no longer associated with paganism, which, while true, doesn't render them not trees.

 

I asked horribly offensive questions like "Imagine I was a lost person. How would you evangelize me?", "Does your pastor preach expositionally or topically?" "How are your Sunday School teachers vetted in regard to their doctrine?" "How would you deal with a member who was found to be in ongoing sin?" and...and I'm almost ashamed to admit that I would ask such a thing but...and, please don't judge me too harshly for this, but I asked them what kind of music they use in worship.

To be honest, it reminded me of back when Aaron was a moderator. Can't answer the question? Just ban 'em!

 

where is he wrong in his theology?

 

Yeah, and I don't recall him always being that way. But what he's been teaching in the last few years has been troubling.

And don't get me started on his kid.

 

I went to their website and it looks like I dodged a bullet. Their statement of faith was pretty good except for they explained that they wanted to make their church a place where unbelievers would have a home.

But, coming out of the Word of Faith movement, I learned the hard way that what a church says they believe on paper, and what they believe in practice are often not the same thing.

The good news is that I dodged a bullet with that church. The bad news is, I'm still without a church.

I wouldn't be too sure about that.