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The Heresy of Ideological Religion

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by FollowTheWay, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. JonC

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    No apologies needed.

    I agree we have freedoms, both granted from our government structure and from God (although these may not be the same freedoms). Our nation allows us to oppose presidencies. I am not as confident Scripture does the same, but instead think we oppose principalities in this age (ungodly principles, ideologies, etc.). How this looks, I believe, is rendering due honor to the presidency while opposing ungodliness by standing for Christ.
     
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    Would love to see your assessment of the immediate past POTUS if you truly believe the above noted statement!!
     
  3. FollowTheWay

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    There's simply no comparison between Obama and Trump. Obama is a decent man. He doesn't lie incessantly like Trump does. He loves his wife and family unlike Trump. The world leaders respected him and they deride Trump.
     
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    Almost nothing about this post is true.
     
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  5. Yeshua1

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    The world will follow the Antichrist, so do not think that is a big deal. And obama might be a good family man, but his agenda and convictions were really anti biblical and anti christ!
     
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    You mean like "You can keep your Dr. if you like him"?:Devilish:Devilish:Devilish:Devilish
    If your head is this deep in the sand, I sure do hope you like the taste of silica.:Rolleyes
     
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    trump is a much better possibility for the anti-Christ. Just look at how he has deceived "Evangelical Christians."
     
  8. Yeshua1

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    And the so called "Black ,Messiah" did not?
     
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    Why do you insist on calling Obama "the Black messiah?" I've never heard that used before.
     
  10. Revmitchell

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    Black Professor Guest Believes Obama Is The Messiah - The Jesse Lee Peterson Radio Show


     
  11. Yeshua1

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    Many of his followers called him that, as many saw him as being a "special person", and somehow more than a normal human while in his midst!
     
  12. FollowTheWay

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    The lady said she is not a Christian. I don't recognize what atheists say about my faith. You must. Right?
     
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    She didn't say anything about my faith I have no idea if she said anything about yours. You asked about Obama being called the Messiah so i showed you. Nothing more.
     
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    Meaningless coming from an atheist.
     
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    You really never heard Black Christians look and speak about him in a sense that made him to be if not a messiah, very much like a prophet/apostle of the Lord?
     
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    Well maybe to you but you asked as if it never happned. I showed you it did. You can dismiss it all you want but she was not the only one. All you have to do is google obama messiah
     
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    I said I'd never seen it. That's because I never connected Obama and the Messiah and never googled that. Does this web site seem to be from a reputable source?
    http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/
    I'm certain almost anything has been said by someone once.
     
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    I have no way of knowing whether of not Franklin Graham is aware of President Trump's "testimony":

    "I'm not sure I have ever asked God's forgiveness. I don't bring God into that picture."
    Source of quote: https://www.christianpost.com/news/donald-trump-im-not-sure-if-i-ever-asked-gods-forgiveness-141706/

    This is not the testimony of a child of God. This is indeed cause for concern for those of us who are part of the Body of Christ.
     
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    I'm agnostic about Trump's salvation based on this statement he made.

    But I truly thank God for him. He's been a blessing. He governs in accordance with biblical principles, more so than any presidents in decades.

    If he's not saved, I don't think Christians should be throwing it in his face trying to degrade him. I think the proper response is gratitude for what he's doing and prayer. Imagine if the Church began to pray as one for Trump. What a testimony that would be.
     
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