Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" declares Adventist are not a Cult and destroys Hoekema's book

This was my "actual" posted response.

Isaiah 66 says someone is going to burn in hell for eating mice... you knew that right?

Isaiah 66
“But he who kills an ox is like one who slays a man;
He who sacrifices a lamb is like the one who breaks a dog’s neck;
He who offers a grain offering is like one who offers swine’s blood;
He who burns incense is like the one who blesses an idol.
As they have chosen their own ways,
And their soul delights in their abominations,
4 So I will choose their punishments
And will bring on them what they dread.
Because I called, but no one answered;
I spoke, but they did not listen.
And they did evil in My sight
And chose that in which I did not delight.”
...
15 For behold, the Lord will come in fire
And His chariots like the whirlwind,
To render His anger with fury,
And His rebuke with flames of fire.
16 For the Lord will execute judgment by fire
And by His sword on all flesh,
And those slain by the Lord will be many.
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17 “Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens,
Following one in the center,
Who eat swine’s flesh, detestable things and mice,
Will come to an end altogether,” declares the Lord

John 9
41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, ‘We see,’ your sin remains.

Sadly for that bit of creative writing you are doing.

My only statement was ..."Isaiah 66 says someone is going to burn in hell for eating mice... you knew that right?"

 

let me guess.

You either consider that "quote of you" to be scripture or else it is a close review in your POV of actual details in thee text.

True??

Is that you -- pointing out details in the text to me??

Seriously?

That's it??

 

People limited to quoting themselves are stuck, they can ONLY believe as their own quotes of themselves tell them to believe by reason of self-quoting. There can be no Sola Scriptura testing for it is totally biased when one is sold-out on "qouting themselves".

I on the other hand - - quote the text. And sadly for your vitriol - you show not one instance of me quoting Ellen White so that I can read Isaiah 66 or point you to it -- all day long.

Think about it Steaver. You have Catholic members of this board seeing what you are doing here after you have in the past held up the sola-scriptura practice to them? What are they supposed to think now that you appear to flatly reject it or at least appear to find it "inconvenient" at the moment?

 

1. you keep questioning the text .. you are not reading.
2. My post was not in response to your question.. it was in response to your vitriol. There is a difference.

 

What NT text says "delete scripture"???

What NT text says "ignore Christ when HE quotes scripture"???

What NT text says "Do not take God's name in vain"??

By contrast with all those "games" you have suggested...we DO have...

"ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration from God AND is to be used for doctrine..." 2 Tim 3:16.


Acts 18:4 - both Jews AND GENTILES worship "Every Sabbath" coming to hear Gospel preaching.

The point remains.

 

Give me the Bible "AND the Words IN The Bible"

 

You are too kind sir.

 

Not in real life. I real life you have "every Sabbath" in Acts 18:4 -- and "nothing" ... "later on" about "every week-day-1" and we all know it.

By merely "quoting you" you get to a great many stories...

I prefer the actual Bible.

Give me the Bible " AND the Words IN the Bible"

We have Y1 "added" all day long here with Y1 going so far as to "quote himself" for his doctrine.

Please choose "the Bible" instead.

 

True. There are "the basics" which is why it is not "practical" to condemn everyone that does not agree with everything this or that Baptist or Methodist says... as not being Christian at all.

 

They gathered "every Sabbath" for worship and Gospel preaching in Acts 18:4.. "They" being BOTH Jews AND Gentiles according to the text.

You "could find" a one-off gathering "ever" on week-day-1 in the Bible but that is about it.

 

This is the "honest" approach that Martin recommends and it is specifically the rejection of it for which Hoekema is flat out condemned. Martin chooses to accept the official teaching and not "one off whatever-one-may-think" as the basis for denomination evaluation.

Indeed that is precisely what Martin condemned in all his work when evaluating any group at all.

A perfect "contrast".

So then no going to Westborough Baptist to find "one guy" and then condemn the entire Baptist group. But what is even worse is your suggestion of "making stuff up" for the one guy you do find.. .and then smearing the entire group with whatever you "imagine" while ignoring every scripture posted in their response.

How "instructive" for the unbiased objective reader.

 

once.