There are Some Who Believe That a Sinner Does Nothing to be Saved

I hope you consider that a good thing, because it is a sign you are in fact loved by me as a brother that I would correct you. I struggle with the sin of just letting people go off and do their own thing when it comes to what I think might be sin. I am told this is a highest form of hate by another believer I was talking to recently. The bible is clear that a reproof or rebuke is a sign of love.

 

You said Calvin accepted universal redemption. I'm merely asking you to prove this claim. You're refusing.

And please tell us your understand of redemption. What does it mean?

 

I always liked Jonah as a Calvinist poster child as well.
Jonah is someone who God clearly chose for a task (go preach in Nineveh).
So Jonah exercises his ‘Free will’ to decline God’s ‘request’, jumps on a ship and said for the opposite end of the world.
God respects Jonah’s Free Will and chooses someone else to deliver the message ... [Oh wait, that is it what happened, is it?]
That’s right. God reminded Jonah that God is God and only His Will counts.

...So help me remember, at the end of that story, whose will prevailed? Did Jonah prevail and was Nineveh destroyed without warning? Did God prevail and Jonah delivered the message to Ninevah which repented and was spared?

Jonah was a living example of what Calvinism teaches about the relationship between the ‘Free will’ of man and the Soverign Will of God. Men always make the wrong natural choice, and God’s will prevails over it.

 

No bias..just observing your absurd postings; from this thread alone;

All men do this, unless God saves them

God is very willing that they go into second death;
and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

it is all over the bible, only a blind man cannot see this

gen6: And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

No it does not...

11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

3 This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.

jn6:44.....No man can

 

Those who's sins have been Atoned for cannot end up in Hell, you don't even realize that you are preaching universal ism saying ALL humans will be saved.

 

The Old is obsolete, we are now in a new and better covenant.

Jesus, High Priest of a Better Covenant
Heb 8:1 Now the point in what we are saying is this: we have such a high priest, one who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,
Heb 8:2 a minister in the holy places, in the true tent that the Lord set up, not man.
Heb 8:3 For every high priest is appointed to offer gifts and sacrifices; thus it is necessary for this priest also to have something to offer.
Heb 8:4 Now if he were on earth, he would not be a priest at all, since there are priests who offer gifts according to the law.
Heb 8:5 They serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things. For when Moses was about to erect the tent, he was instructed by God, saying, “See that you make everything according to the pattern that was shown you on the mountain.”
Heb 8:6 But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second.
Heb 8:8 For he finds fault with them when he says: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah,
Heb 8:9 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they did not continue in my covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach, each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more.”
Heb 8:13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

 

The natural man makes free will choices every day, what will I wear, what will I eat etc... but when it comes to embracing the gospel, it will never happen, why, because he considers it to be foolishness.

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 

If ALL humans sins have been Atoned for, then those who don't repent will enter the Kingdom, why, because as you said their sins have been Atoned for.

 

Bought Ransomed, that's not ALL humans as you preach.

 

Hey Saved-By-Grace,

I have a previous thread with a large number of bible verses you might want to peruse:

My Theological Stance after Searching with All of My Heart

I have a thread I started on OSAS a while back as well with a lot of bible verses referenced.

How I Read the Bible on Works and Salvation

I hope those bible verses add to the discussion.

 

The holy Spirt Himself MUST grant them the faith unto belief in Jesus, and he also will produce in them godly type of repentance as a fruit of salvation.