Arrogance of changing Scripture

I think that however we interpret this passage, the important consideration is that the term cannot be rendered as gods, as the scripture hold to their being only 1 true God!

 

It is a plurality of the heavenly Host, but there is still but 1 God, correct?

 

I never use the multi-quote feature. I simply highlight what I wish to quote, and then go up to the little "plus sign," and click on it, then click on "Quote."

I am a professor of ancient languages. My specialty is Greek, and my son teaches Hebrew. I took Hebrew long ago from a leading scholar in the field, but nowadays don't read it directly. However, as a linguist I am perfectly at home discussing the semantics of Hebrew, which is what we are doing on this thread.

Again, look at the context of Ps. 82. According to v. 3-4, God is talking to people on earth, not in Heaven.

"3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. {Defend: Heb. Judge} 4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked." (KJV)

The only way to interpret elohim in v. 6 as "angels" or someone else in Heaven is to say that there are poor people in heaven that the angels need to take care of. Do you actually mean to say that?

Again, look at the context of the whole Psalm. It has to be people on earth being addressed, since there are no poor people in Heaven. Also, it has never been the job of angels to take care of the poor. You can't find that anywhere in the Bible.

 

I'm concluding as much, looking at the post he just put up answering you (supposedly) and accusing someone (Me? Not sure.) of humanistic teaching.

 

What are some of those bias and errors within Christianity?

 

Apostle John that us becoming children of God was NOT due to our will, but due to the Will of God!

 

And those are still people on the earth that angels are not tasked with helping. And what about the rest of the passage: fatherless people, those who need justice, etc. Again, these are the things judges are tasked with, not angels.

I see absolutely no connection. What's your point?

It is absolutely false that a human person becomes elohim when they are saved. This is akin to the "manifest sons of god" heresy of the Latter Rain movement, the precurser of the modern Charismatic movement. This doctrine is extremely dangerous.

Are you a Charismatic Baptist, believing the "manifest sons of god" doctrine?

This is exactly the false doctrine of the "manifest sons of god" heresy of the Latter Rain movement: that we are "little gods" running around on earth doing exactly the same things Jesus could do. The Latter Rain heresy was so bad that they were kicked out of the classical Pentecostal groups.

"John 10:34-35, with Psalm 82:6. Those who embrace the 'little gods' doctrine almost universally cite these verses, wrested from their contexts" (Michael Horton, ed., The Agony of Deceit, p. 95).

All becomes clear. You are a Charismatic, aren't you? That's what this whole thread is about, right?

These verses are irrelevant to the discussion.

 

Absolutely not me. I am not humanist in any way, shape or form. Don't include me in your "us."

 

HUMANIST

noun
1. a person having a strong interest in or concern for human welfare, values, and dignity.

2. a person devoted to or versed in the humanities.

3. a student of human nature or affairs.

4. a classical scholar.

5. (sometimes initial capital letter) any one of the scholars of the Renaissance who pursued and disseminated the study and understanding of the cultures of ancient Rome and Greece, and emphasized secular, individualistic, and critical thought.

6. (sometimes initial capital letter) a person who follows a form of philosophical or scientific humanism. ​

Not in "any way, shape or form"?
[just teasing]

 

As a Baptist, I've always been taught to question what I've been taught, since a Baptist distinctive is "The Bible as the sole rule of faith and practice."

You start out by accusing someone of arrogance. (I'm not sure who, but apparently whoever disagrees with you that we are little elohim, or gods.) I say the arrogance resides in any teacher of the Latter Rain/charismatic "little gods" doctrine. How arrogant to say we are "little gods" just like Jesus.

I ask again. Are you a Charismatic Baptist?