Jerry Walls wicked and profane question about God

Willis isn't introducing anything of the such. All I am saying is an argument for babies going to heaven isn't as iron-clad as many think it is. I am not saying they'll go to hell either. I JUST DON'T KNOW...the bible isn't explicitly clear on this, imo.

 

Correct it isn’t, not if your theological construct embraces Election and Total Depravity, which mine does... and btw, these are Doctrines of Grace talking points that are on the table .... and they themselves do not provide clarity. From my own personal prospective, I have 2 members of my own family who are affected by this. So what are my options.
1. Stop believing in Doctrines of Grace... that will assuage my souls confusion regarding the disposition of those two souls.

2. Be content, understanding that the Lord will do right.

 

I believe I have posted this before... it clearly represents my beliefs

 

And he did it in 4 minutes... he explained your relationship with you and your savior in 4 minutes and he did it with exuberance and deep understanding. They don’t make them like that anymore. Can I get an amen!?!

 

Once again you demonstrate that you fail to understand that philosophy involves the scientific study of drawing out the truth in an argument which would be the opposite of your claim that it has the goal of subjectivity toward truth and of suggesting it is not knowable. The fact remains that it is pretty obvious you do use and put the philosophical construct of the writers of the 1689 LBC on a pedestal and the elevation and cult-like worship of these men’s teaching should be cause for alarm in the same sense that one should look upon Pentecostals claims of getting info and healing powers straight from God.

BTW, even Paul, who did get his info straight from God was quite the philosopher, said the Bereans were of more noble character for questioning his words, using their own minds and going to the scriptures to see whether or not his words lined up with the truth. You should probably try that sometime...

 

You attempt to use the euphemism of “clear decorations” instead of “philosophical construct” to describe the 1689 LBC writings and apparently believe that carries of weight of proving truth, but should take note of some basic critical thinking skills that expose such rhetoric as fallaciously begging the question, at best.

So let me get this straight, it is not acceptable to question the writings in the 1689 LBC because of the writer’s claims under Luke 1 that their understanding is perfect and that they are on the same level as the apostles, therefore they cannot/should not be questioned as to their accuracy? Hmm, if that’s how you believe maybe you should try out some Pentecostal churches in comparison because they make the very same claims.

Nope, Icon, your claims of others here not using scripture or ever refuting the Doctrines of Determinism are quite old, a weak argument and have been disproven many times along with the philosophical constructs of those in the 1689 LBC who you believe are divinely and mystically superior in their interpretations wherein they have tried to justify their Deterministic views through theories of compatibilism and self-aggrandizement by use of scripture.

I would encourage you to be more careful in your "confessional" followings of the philosophical constructs of men and their proclaimed superiority and work a little more on understanding:

(Eph 4:14) That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

(Col 2:8) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Act 20:30-31

(30) Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

(31) Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

 

Sermon on the mount 2.0

Jesus walks up the mount and says "I got this."

The End.

 

1 John 5:1

 

...atta way Willis! You tell em! Someone dares ruffle your panties - put em on ignore!

 

Might as well do that to anyone who has fallen prey to modern religion... then ya would never have any chance at changing anyone’s mind.

 

1 John 5:2

 

...he comes back to the BB to do what, put all opposing views on ignore? On a DEBATE forum? Who's he been hanging with that's made him so extreme?

 

Radio, TV, Missionary, Bible, pamphlet, another person witnessing, church now going up etc!

 

God actively chose who would be saved by His own Will and Pleasure, but he also permits the remainder to freely choose to reject Jesus and gey their desire to be apart from God in Hell.

 

Can any created being in the ultimate sense stop the Determined Will of God to get accomplished?