How much of a "sinner" are we really?

I think Paul speaks loud and clear to those not born again. They try to battle the flesh with the flesh. Just as he did before knowing Christ personally. But the same Paul taught us that by walking in the Spirit, we will not fulfill the cravings of the flesh. That is, you will live in harmony with the Law, walking in love, and not legalistically.

 

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I know you do, but you're wrong for the reasons given above.
Paul is speaking loud and clear to those who are born again and struggling with besetting sin, 'which so easily ensnares us.' How comforting it is to know that Paul himself had such struggles and that we can look to Christ for deliverance.

 

We all struggle with temptation rooted in the flesh. But Paul says we overcome it by walking in the Spirit. So sin is the exception, not the rule. In Romans 7 Paul describes the futility of battling the flesh with the flesh under the Law. Romans 8 provides the better way, “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.” (Romans 8:1–2)

 

I am a sinner, saved by Grace! When I sin I am vexed even though sin is pleasurable (if it weren't it would not be tempting).

1 John 2:1 (KJV)
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

So regrading the "if" do we have an advocate with the Father if we don't sin? Just to be clear on where I stand, I believe he ever liveth to make intercession for me!

Hebrews 7:25 (KJV)
25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

 

Which would support that Paul was indeed describing his own condition after getting saved, as he wanted to obey God and do the right thing, but in his own flesh was not the means to do that, as he needed the empowering from the Holy Spirit Himself!

 

NONE of us here who like the trump Agenda see him as being the Messiah, unlike liberals/Dems/media who saw president Obama as being the black messiah! We just like that His social policies are far more Biblical than the ones set forth by prior president, and that he puts America first, not Globalism!

 

Jesus did not abolish it, but he fulfilled it, and thus became the mediator of now a new and better Covenant. We still though even while saved expected to uphold the Moral law of God shown to us in his 10 Commandments...

 

We are still those who willingly sin though, as none reach a sinless perfection state, for if you thought you have, that would be a sin!

 

Paul was self describing what happens when a saved person tries to fight the good fight in their own flesh and their own strength!

 

Of course we uphold the Commandments, except the Sabbath. We might or might not have a sabbath. But if we walk in the Spirit, love fulfills all of these and more. Instead of not stealing, we give. Instead of not murdering our enemies, we work as hard for their well being as we do our own. Instead of not covening, we give making our neighbor's life as good as we can. and so on............(Think and practice the Sermon on the Mount).

 

Not really, if you read Romans 7 again, he is describing the frustration of being a self-righteous jew under the Law. Then in Romans 8 he compares it to being a Christian under the law of the Spirit of life in Christ.

 

“Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” (1 John 3:9–10)

 

We uphold a day unto the Lord still though, as wasa the custom of the first Christians!

 

Trump is biblical?!? How so?

 

I'm not saying he's biblical. I'm just saying that I think that he could be capable of making the right decisions for the right reasons, in a way that I felt certain that the competing candidate could not.

 

I believe that a sinner is "dead in trespasses and sins", "depraved" and that "the heart is deceitful above all things" and "desperately wicked". But a sinner can respond to message of the Gospel through the drawing ("wooing") of the Holy Ghost of his own free will. THAT is anti- "Calvinist"

A sinner, once saved, cannot be lost again because he has been "born again", indwelled, and sealed by the Holy Ghost, EVEN if he sins after salvation. THAT is anti- "Arminian"

I deny them both, so I don't know which one you think I lean to .

 

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The Greek construction does NOT support a state of sinless perfection, but that one who is a real Christian lifestyle will not be to continual sin. We still do sin, but it is no longer our very nature to sin!

 

By the Agenda in social issues and economics that he is following!