The "only" version?

Amen! I always like to add, the translators were Calvinists.

 

Just to be clear, I shall repeat my post.

You assume that I need or want your help.

While I may find kernels of truth you have mined here and there, my dependency for truth does not have a foci in you as the scriptures Romans 8:26-27; John 16:13 ironically make perfectly clear sir.

You do not know my heart or the content and/or duration of my prayers to Christ in relationship to my scripture study.

We have seen many come and go who claim to have superior knowledge and connection to God because of a multitude of first-persons claims directly or by innuendo.

Hopefully you are not such a one HNC.

 

Not a word here that can be established as a fact. It's KJVO's adding to the meaning, which is blatant eisegesis.

Who was the Bishop of Alexandria, and what evidence do you have that he altered the Greek? If your source is Gipp, Ruckman, Riplinger, Cloud, Wilkinson, Strauss, Moorman etc. Don't waste your time or mine.

Who penned the Alexandrian mss and who penned the Byzantine mss? What proof do you have?

KJVO's love to insinuate that non KJVO's aren't saved. The Bible is clear. That is not your call.

Many of us here have dealt with the KJVO nonsense before. We're familiar with the tactics.

I'll be waiting on those sources.

 

The problem with Easter is that Passover comes first and then the 7 days of the unleavened bread. So it could not be Passover after the 7 days of the unleavened bread. So when Herod dealt with the disciples.... how does one keep the facts straight?

Acts 12:1Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church. 2 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.) 4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

The Greek word was of the Chaldee origin used for Passover or Easter.

HTML Bible Index - King James Version - Strongs Concordance - Frames Version

"of Chaldee origin (compare pecach 6453); the Passover (the meal, the day, the festival or the special sacrifices connected with it):--Easter, Passover."

Since it could not be the Passover, the 47 Biblical scholars for the KJV used Easter and confirmed it unanimously for Easter.

However those who oppose make excuses for the Jewish tradition by incorporating the Passover day with the 7 days of the unleavened bread, but the Passover has always referred to a specific day. The question is.. why did they use the Chaldee origin for that word in Greek, unless there is some significance to it that is not necessarily referring to the Passover day?

The 1599 Geneva Bible used Passover, but again, in translating from that Chaldee word in Greek, how can it mean the day of Passover when Passover precedes the 7 days of the unleavened bread in Jewish eyes back then?

Numbers 28:16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the Lord. 17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten. 18 In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein:

Something to think about for why all 47 of the Biblical scholars took that route on the KJV.

As for NASV on 1 Timothy 6:10 in being better than the KJV …

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. NASB

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. KJV

No difference, brother.

 

Look at the finished product and discern with Him, brother. He is the only one that can help you discern which Bible version loved Him & His words to keep them from Gnostic influences.

 

Katarina is a sister in the Lord, not a brother.

 

Hmmm..... The KJV is clearly incorrect. It says that the love of money is the root of all evil.

Money isn't the root of all evil. Do you think gossip is about money? It could be, but mostly it's our depraved condition.

The NASB is correct. The KJV is wrong.

 

KVB You're in trouble now.

 

I know you did not discern the matter with Him, brother. You reacted to the post without doing so. That is your choice.

If we correct by the scripture and there can be no lie of the truth, then when there is no agreement, then one if us did not check with Him. I asked you to check with Him. You did not listen if your mind was already made up.

The fact that modern day tongue speakers use Romans 8:26-27 in modern Bibles as proof text that the Holy Spirit can use tongues to utter His own intercessions is why you did not check with Him at that throne of grace when John 16:13 in ALL Bible versions says He cannot use tongues for that purpose. Seeing nothing wrong with it, gives you no grounds to correct modern day tongue speakers.

When keeping the faith is the good fight, in regards to this topic, you are not listening to Him, because all you see is me when you are supposed to take everything and prove it by Him, no matter who it is. If I have to say it, fine.. I am nobody.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

If His words are important to you, then check with Him. That is what I am addressing because no lie can be of the truth.

If you had checked with Him and I was astray, He would have revealed my error to lead you to show me my error, but you have not.

So explain how John 16:13 in all Bible versions is NOT saying that the Holy Spirit CANNOT use tongues to utter His own intercessions if you claim you had checked with Him since this is His ministry, right?

Take a break now, look at what I had asked you to do and pray for an answer from Him. Or don't.

If you are mad, then don't reply. I apologize that I have made you mad, but I was trying to get you engaged with Him on the topic. But maybe that was the wrong thing to do. Maybe I had too much hope that He was showing you His words for where my concerns are legit for believers to be aware of. I had thought He was enabling you in seeing my concerns earlier, but I guess not.

Hebrews 5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. 12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

I had really thought that of all the members here, you were really doing this below actively in regards to everything by Him.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

Maybe I am just impatient. Maybe I just need to wait and see.

Thank you for your time and service any way, brother. I shall trust the Lord to lead me otherwise to avoid "arguments" with you, because I know it is not on me to cause the increase. Maybe later on, He will help you see what He has led me to see.

 

I'm a sister in the Lord and I'm quite used to being told to shut my female mouth by KJVO's. I sincerely hope I am wrong about that.

I asked you a series of questions. You have answered none of them. And...the Lord is always with me during my daily Bible study. God has never told me that I have the wrong Bible. My husband is a Pastor. We believe that Pastors and their families need feeding too. We attend Apologia Church in Tempe Arizona. The Pastor is Jeff Durbin. There is even some affiliation with Alpha Omega Ministries with Elder James White.

 

LOL!

 

HNC you have not taken the time brother to read my responses to you and others that I do not believe in or support "speaking in tongues" for the post apostolic church.

 

When taken out of context, so is all Bible versions.

1 Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. 6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. 9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

But I understand that the bigotry of the KJVO is very strong in this forum that you can only see error when you want to see error while those you oppose that have gone astray that use Romans 8:26-27 to justify using tongues as a means for the Holy Spirit to utter His own intercessions by.. you guys keep on supporting it as meaning that and thereby supporting those astray.

I reckon I can see why Baptists tolerate holy rollers in their camps. With all those Bible versions, and they are not all saying the same thing, it is no wonder why there is no way any one can correct any one with the KJV knocked out of the ring like that.

Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord: 12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it. 13 In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst.

Is it any wonder why Pentecostals. Charismatics, Catholics, and now Baptists hunger for more of God; for more of that moment in feeling His Presence when He "comes" or "visits" in the worship place? All those Bible versions puts doubts in His words kept in the KJV. Everything is now.. "did God really say that?", because of all those modern Bibles.

So have they finally got that easier to read Bible than the KJV yet? Nope. Looks like they are still churning out Bible versions.

To get a copyright for a Bible version, you have to change enough words or/and dropped words to get a copyright. Is that being done for the love of money rather than "seeking the good of fellow believers"?

How reassuring is that for why not all the Bibles are saying the same thing in keeping the message in His words? None to me.

I have shared why I rely on the KJV for keeping the faith which is the good fight. I reckon for some, being anti-KJVO is the better fight to take. So be it.

 

Thanks for the correction. My bad.

 

Live with it HNC or like most of your KJVO predecessors - see you later brother.

 

Sorry for my oversight, sister.

Forums are outreach ministry where the Lord can use women in the ministry in that fashion.

I missed it then. What post # was it?

God was with me when I was using the NASB and the NIV, until troubling verses had Him led me to check with the KJV. He will have to do the same for you.

I have been led astray by my church, by the world, and by my own sinful nature, but the Lord delivered me out of them all as I trust him to continue to do so as my Good Shepherd. 2 Timothy 4:18

The danger to all churches & believers today is being complacent in following the crowd without actually proving everything by Him. I had hopes to point everybody to going to Jesus Christ to be their Good Shepherd to confirm His words as kept in the KJV.

I shall leave that hope in His hands.

 

I shall. brother. If that is what is required of my Lord for me to withdraw because we are not all saying the same thing nor having the same judgment, I shall, but not as a KJVO, but for defending the faith which is the good fight which can only be done by the KJV.

May the Lord help me to withdraw to admonish you all. Thank you for showing me the door, brother. Good bye.

 

hope you find a KJVO site where you will be happy.

 

Answer the questions I asked. And then try your best to tell me why the KJV translators chose money is the root of all evil, when it's easily demonstrable that it isn't.