Satan Crushed Shortly

Its "thinketh"

Proverbs 23:7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.

 

For further insight, I was just reading a devotional by R.C. Sproul (Ligonier Ministries). Sproul says that Paul gives this promise to crush Satan underfoot in the context of his warning about false teachers (Romans 16:17-20). His view is that the Romans might be troubled that falsehood might enter the Church at Rome, so this promise was to assure them that Christ will finally win the day. This promise reminded the Roman Christians that God alone brings victory. John Calvin comments on the passage that this promise refers not only to our final victory over Satan, but also to our present era. God often defeats our enemies, for which we should be grateful.

 

Well whenever full preterism is brought forth an array of questions also comes forth Tom.

One question brought forth if what is the source of horrific crime e.g. baby murder and why if all is fulfilled does God allow the bloodshed of the innocent if Satan is in the bottomless pit?

 

I don't remember saying the Jews are in charge of any thing. I was speaking of Christ second coming.
MB

 

Weak, weak response, Tom, nonetheless a response.

Interesting though - a possible preterist futurist (or is it a possible futurist preterist?).

 

Partial Preterists also still look for the events that Tom mentioned.
I meant to let you know that I am also praying for your brother. I am so sorry that you and your family are going through this very difficult time.

 

Most involved in this blog would say the same of your view Tom - many many passages which are counter preterist.

e.g. (just one of MANY):

2 Peter 3
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

The record of which cannot be found in secular or church history.

personally I am looking forward to this earth being purged/renovated by the Lord's thermonuclear fusion

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

How in one's wildest imagination can one think that these things have happened without allegorizing the scripture to make it agree with ones private view? Especially to believe that righteousness dwells here in this WICKED EARTH!?

However I admire your persistence and gentlemanly manner brother.

 

"Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."

That was 'the second coming', the final ending of the Old Covenant 'arrangement' [kosmos] and the implementation of the New Covenant 'arrangement' [kosmos].

Question:

28 so Christ also, having been once offered to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to them that wait for him, unto salvation. Heb 9
37 For yet a very little while, He that cometh shall come, and shall not tarry. Heb 10

Like 'shortly', do you think 'for yet a very little while' in actuality means thousands of years and still waiting?

 

Great last line. That is the way we all should be.

 

Who cares

 

I do.

 

I don’t

 

Ohhhhh please, spare me the condescending

 

OK

 

Just being honest Tom.
To me preterism is a theology of wild imagination. I do however respect it as one which has captivated many and continues to do so.

Peter is not allegorizing as he uses the very literal event of the global deluge of water to compare to the ultimate end of the material universe under the curse of death (entropy) by fire.

2 Peter 3
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

In terms of a non allegorical fire:
Reading the complete account by Peter of the destruction by fire looks like a universal gamma burst (molecular fire).
It is quite real and is coming just as sure as the rain of the global deluge which takes no imagination apart from reading the text.

Gamma Ray Burst | COSMOS

This one will be universal.

 

He has gone on. I will see him again.

 

So sorry for your loss, but so glad you have the comfort of knowing that you will see him again.