Is salvation conditional on choosing to believe and follow Gods Word?

Hello Wesley, nice to meet you here . Some comments for your consideration below..

Indeed all of us are sinners and the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is what saves the cheifest of sinners like me *ROMANS 6:23; 1 TIMOTHY 1:15 . So is the good news of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and God's salvation, from sin or so we can continue in sin in your view *JOHN 8:31-36? What do you think is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *2 TIMOTHY 3:5; 1 JOHN 3:6-10; MATTHEW 7:22-23?

We are saved by grace through faith and not of ourselves it is a gift of God and not of works lest any man should boast *EPHESIANS 2:8. Faith comes also as a gift through the Word of God *ROMANS 10:17 and it is God that makes us spiritually alive when we were dead in tresspasses and sin *EPHESIANS 2:1 and says;

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore CHOOSE LIFE, that both you and your seed may live: That you may love the LORD your God, and that you may obey his voice, and that you may hold to him: for he is your life, and the length of your days: that you may dwell in the land which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them *DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

Our part is to choose to believe and follow God's Word or not to believe and follow God's Word. We cannot serve two masters for we will love the one and hate the other *MATTHEW 6:24.

JOSHUW 24:15 And if it seem evil to you to serve the LORD, CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHO YOU WILL SERVE; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

No one has said differently. Read EPHESIANS 2:1-5 with ROMANS 6.

What is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:3-10; 1 JOHN 2:1-4; 2 TIMOTHY 3:5; 1 JOHN 3:6-10; MATTHEW 7:22-23 in your view Wesley? Nice talking with you brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts.

God bless

 

Isn't following God's Word, God's work in all those who believe his Word? How do you read PHILIPPIANS 2:13? Also, are you saying faith is not a gift of God also? I think I already posted that salvation is a gift in EPHESIANS 2:8-9 but also that faith is also a gift through given us by God through his Word. Being saved is a gift of God through faith as we believe and follow God's Word. Why do you say that faith is not a gift of God? Now if Grace comes through faith *EPHESIANS 2:8-9 and God has given every man a measure of faith *ROMANS 12:3 through his Word *ROMANS 10:17. How is faith not a gift of God to all who believe and follow God's Word? If there is no word there is no faith. The Word comes from God as a gift to all mankind.

God bless

 

Hi Welsey nice to see you again.

I noticed you left out the context of 1 JOHN 3:10-12 when asked the question what is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil. Is there any reason for this? As the context you have left out here actually answers the question above. V10 you quoted is the summary statement of that which proceeded it. Let's add the context back into the question being asked and start from v6 through to v10...

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CHILDREN OF GOD AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL?

1 JOHN 3:6-10
[6], WHOEVER ABIDES IN HIM SINS NOT: WHOEVER SINS HAS NOT SEEN HIM OR KNOWS HIM .

Those who abide in Him (Christ) do not practice sin. Those who practice sin have not seen him or know him. These scriptures link to 1 JOHN 2:1-4 and MATTHEW 7:22-23 (take a look).

[7], Little children (believers), LET KNOW MAN DECEIVE YOU: HE THAT DOES RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTOUESS EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTOUESS.

Ok John is following the predeeding thoughts on sin and not to sin stating it is only those who DO RIGHTEOUSNESS that are righteous even as He (Jesus) is righteous. Righteousness is defined in the scriptures as God's LAW (10 Commandments) which is the definition of what righteousness is *PSALMS 119:172 and the definition of what sin is if broken *1 JOHN 3:4 (prior context) ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:8-12

[8], He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Here we go; He that commits sin is of the devil. The children of the devil are now defined as all those who practice known unrepentant sin.

[9], Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Here the children of God are defined as those who do not practice sin because they are born of the Word of God

[10], In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

Summary statement is v10 says "IN THIS (to practice sin or not to practice sin v6-9) the children of God are manifest and the children of the devil.

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So what is the answer to the question; What is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil?

Answer. SIN is the difference! Those who are the children of God do not practice sin and those who are the children of the devil practice known unrepentant sin. This is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil according to God's Word. Sin is the breaking of anyone of God's 10 commandments. If we break God's law or do not believe and follow his Word it is sin *1 JOHN 3:4; ROMANS 7:7; ROMANS 3:20; JAMES 2:8-10; ROMANS 14:23; EXODUS 20:1-17.

Hope this helps

God bless

 

God indeed does save people that were unbelievers making them repentant believers as they believe and follow His Word *ROMANS 10:17, but nope, salvation is indeed conditional on believing and following God's Word (see scriptures in the OP; post 1 and 2)! By their fruits you shall know them *JOHN 15:1-10. No fruit, no saving faith *JAMES 2:18-20; 26. Salvation according to the scriptures shown all through the Old and New Testament scriptures is conditional on believing and following God's Word. Those who say they believe but do not follow have the faith of devils *JAMES 2:19; 1 JOHN 2:1-4; .JOHN 10:1-10; 25-29. Sin is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:3-10; REVELATION 14:12.

 

Not at all. How can we have law without grace when it is law that leads to Grace through faith *EPHESIANS 2:8 for obedience to God's Word *ROMANS 1:5; GALATIANS 3:22-25; ROMANS 3:31. It is only through the law that we have a knowledge of what sin is *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7. If there is no law then there is no sin if we do not know what sin is we have no need of a Saviour *MATTHEW 9:12-13 if we have no saviour we are lost because we are still in our sins and the wages of sin is death to all those who reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23; ROMANS 2:12-13. Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4. You are mixing up the fruit of faith with the works of the law. We are only saved by grace through faith and not of ourselves, it is a gift of God and not of works lest anymany should boast *EPHESIANS 2:8. The fruit of grace through faith is obedience to God's Word *ROMANS 1:5.

God's Sheep hear His Voice (the Word) and follow him *JOHN 10:1-10; 25-29

 

Yes brother indeed! Love does indeed fulfill the law. It is not separate from it though because on it hang all the law and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40. This is the parable the seed is the Word of God *LUKE 8:11

God bless

 

Not sure why your repeating yourself here brother. I already agreed with you in the rest of the post you are quoting from which said...

Being saved is a gift of God through faith as we believe and follow God's Word. Why do you say that faith is not a gift of God? I asked this question after providing more scripture showing that it is God that gives every man a measure of faith as we choose to believe and follow his Word *ROMANS 12:3. The same as we receive God's grace through this very Word *EPHESIANS 2:8. God's Word teaches us that we only have faith as we believe and follow God's Word because faith comes my hearing and hearing by the Word of God. It is therefore through the Word of God (Jesus; JOHN 1:1-4; 14) that we have faith which is God's gift to all those who believe.
If there is no word there is no faith. The Word comes from God as a gift to all mankind but many are called and few are chosen *MATTHEW 22:14

God's Sheep heat His Voice (the Word)

 

I understood your posts the first time brother. This is why I asked if you read the scriptures in the OP. It seems you have not or you would not be posting what you are posting. You did not read the OP did you. I am not sure what your posting here has to do with the OP but I love the scriptures. Thanks for sharing.