Featured "seven church ages" false doctrine...

I don’t agree with the teaching that the seven churches of Revelation are historical ages yet wouldn’t call it a false doctrine.

There is precedent for such a view in Daniel upon which Revelation draws.

I personally wouldn’t teach the Seven churches that way...

...then again Revelation is so complex that I shy from teaching any of it.​

Rob

 

What needs, I believe, needs to be made prominent in the minds of readers of the 7 letters is to whom those 7 letters in those 7 churches are addressed. The "messenger," ". . . αγγελω . . . ." transliterated, "angel," which would be the elder or pastor of each of those churches.

 

Maybe

Its an interesting theory. Whats more interesting is that there is disagreement among the supporters.

 

Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

 

I agree with your interpretation. In my understanding, your interpretation is correct, perfect. But let me add more some details, perhaps this can broaden the perception or vision we have on our great enemies, which we have to face while we are living here at this end of time.
Revelation 13 reveals LITERALLY the existence of TWO sequencial powerful and devilish Beasts, which would go to rise upon the earth by the spirit of antiChrist that was already working against the Lord's Church since the beginning of the Church(1John 2:v.18-20 is an important reference). The 2nd Beast will come yet in his own time. 2Thessalonians 2:v.6

How could or can the true Christians identify the FIRST Beast, a religious and devilish MONSTER of 7 heads and 10 horns? Revelation 13:v.1 and 17:v.7

In this post I intend to comment on the FIRST Beast exclusively. In another post I will try to comment about the second Beast - Revelation 13:v.11-18

The FIRST Beast rose up out of the sea - Revelation 13:1-10 - sea = waters -

The FIRST Beast is a continuous succession of a religious Gentile MAN, elected by the Catholic Church as her ruler and guide since around 2,000 years ago, specifically from the Roman Empire. We know well how has been its two thousand years of ruthless and devilish history.

We, Christian people or believers in Christ JESUS, know that this religious and idolater Gentile Beast did rise up out from the waters(sea), Revelation 13:v.1, i.e. from the midst of the Gentile nations of the ancient Roman Empire, that was the FOURTH KINGDOM as prophesied Daniel (Dan. 2:v.40-44) and was DISSOLVED after passed some centuries of Christian Era(aD) EXCEPT, yes, EXCEPT, ITS RELIGIOUS AND DEMONIC SYSTEM, the Papacy and his Catholic Church, the Great Whore.

THE GREAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LORD'S CHURCH AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FALSELY DENOMINATED AS A CHRISTIAN CHURCH

The Lord's Church - such as a Woman - since the beginning she has the person of JESUS Christ as her only bridegroom and husband. On the other hand, the Great Whore - the RCC - is wedded with around 265 Popes until today, she rides upon the FIRST Beast, i.e. upon the Papacy or Popes, which have a NAME OF BLASPHEMY upon its 7 heads, that is Vicar, Son of God or Vicarius Filii Dei. Another historical great blaspheme of the idolater and satanic Church is to say that our beloved Apostle Peter was the first Pope, this is a lie, this is false, this is more a satanic blasphemy among many others.

Scriptures say that the FIRST Beast has 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his (7) heads the name of blasphemy, these were the things the Word of God did say through the sealed book of Apocalypse that was with God the Father, whose seven seals were broken by JESUS to shew unto His servants things which should shortly come to pass. Revelation 1:v.1

Again: How could the true Christians identify the FIRST Beast, a religious and spiritual MONSTER of 7 heads and 10 horns? Revelation 13:v.1 and 17:v.7

In fact this religious and devilish spiritual MONSTER has 7 heads, but to know on this only literally is not enough, what matters is identifying what these 7 heads are. Not me, but the Word of God says that the 7 heads (of this religious MONSTER) are 7 mountains and 7 kings. Revelation 17:v.7

Therefore, now what matters is identifying what are these 7 mountains, on which the woman - the Whore which rides upon the Beast - sits, and also who these 7 kings are. By the way, one of the 7 heads (7 mountains) will be mortally wounded. Strange, no? Can or may a mountain be wounded? Oh no, of course not. But now, what matters is identifying what these 7 mountains are. Furthermore, the 7 heads of the FIRST Beast make part of the Red Dragon's body (Revelation 12:v.3)

The Great Whore is sat upon the 7 heads of the Beast - Revelation 17:v.7&9

1 - The 7 HEADS OF THE BEAST
The Word of God says: "Here is the mind which hath wisdom. (our God will never agree with speculations, presumptions or conjectures) The 7 heads are 7 MOUNTAINS on which the woman sitteth. Revelation 17:v.9

THE SEVEN KINGS WITHIN RELIGIOUS STRUCTURES OF THE BEAST - THE PAPACY & RCC

2 - THE 7 KINGS
Revelation 17:v.10 - And there are 7 kings: 5 are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (In fact 42 months, no more, no more)

These 7 kings make part of the body of the woman, they are linked or included within the body of the the Great Whore. Again: what matters is identifying who these 7 kings are. Who are them? They are included within the body of the the Great Whore, the Roman Catholic Church.

1 - IDENTIFYING THE 7 HEADS OF THE FIRST BEAST WHERE THE GREAT WHORE - the RCC - SITS.

THE 7 HEADS ARE 7 MOUNTAINS - IT MEANS TERRITORIAL AND SPIRITUAL STRUCTURES OF THE FIRST BEAST AND THE WOMAN THAT RIDES UPON THE BEAST - THE RCC

But there is another important detail to be analyzed for better and good interpretation: Revelation 17:v.15 - 15 And he saith unto me, The WATERS which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

So, besides the 7 mountains there are also these WATERS where the whore sitteth, that are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. Where do these peoples, and multitudes, and NATIONS, and tongues are located?
They are located in (1)Europe, and (2)Asia, and (3)Africa, and (4)Oceania(Australia), and (5)North America, and (6) Central America and(7) South America. These are the 7 heads of the Beast where the WHORE SITS, which is ruled and guided by the Beast in these 7 regions of the Earth. The RCC - the Whore - which rides upon the Beast of 7 heads and 10 horns - the Papacy - is enthroned in Rome, in the great Vatican City.

But there is an interesting detail to be focused: Revelation was written around the year 95 or 100aD. AT THAT TIME were known only Asia (1) , and Europe(2) , and Africa(3).
Oceania(Australia)(4), and North America(5), and Central America(6), and South America(7) were not known at that time. But our God is Omniscient and the testemony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy, therefore, the future existence of these last four regions - Oceania(Australia), and North America, and Central America, and South America were foretold predicted prophetically.

So, the 7 heads of the FIRST Beast are 7 mountains on which the Woman - the Roman Catholic Church - sits, it means where the TERRITORIAL STRUCTURES of the Woman - the RCC - was and is built and is established until this present time. Another interesting detail: Why was written "the 7 heads are 7 mountains"? Now, now, it is because at that time or near two thousand years ago the Earth was not known as it is today, evidently, today we say they are continents.

Above was described the territorial structures of the Beast and of the Woman-the RCC.
What to say about the spiritual structures of the Beast - the old Papacy?

SPIRITUAL STRUCTURES OF THE FIRST BEAST AND OF THE WOMAN - THE RCC
It is written that the Woman - the Roman Catholic Church - sits also upon many waters (nations) as is written in Revelation17:v.15: - 15 And he saith unto me, The WATERS which thou sawest, where the WHORE sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

As we all can see, besides the TERRITORIAL STRUCTURES of the WHORE identified in the Scriptures as 7 MOUNTAINS, there is also her SPIRITUAL STRUCTURES within the nations of her TERRITORIAL STRUCTURES, so let us be sure that the HEAD of the Beast which will be wounded to death is in the spiritual sense and not territorial, of course, and this prophecy will fulfil LITERALLY from now on, and the HEAD which will be wounded mortally is South America with its population, beginning by the country named Brazil.

continues next post

 

continuation of above

THERE ARE ALSO SEVEN KINGS IN THE SPIRITUAL STRUCTURES OF THE WHORE - THE RCC

Who are the 7 "Kings"? The 7 kings are a lineage of Popes within the spiritual structures of the WHORE along its two thousand years of history. But why does Revelation call these leaders and religious guides of the Roman Catholic Church as "kings" . Remember: The things revealed in the book of Revelation were written around the year 100, the function or the title "Pope" was not yet used at that time, right?

And who are these 7 "kings" , and what are the NAME of each one of them in the religious hierarchy of the idolater Church of the Beast, the Roman Catholic Church? I will say who are them and their NAMES as follow:
Detail: When is elected a Pope, he changes his own name and uses a new name as a nickname, actually a false name as the prostitutes do. Here goes who are these 7 "Kings": they are of a lineage of Popes nicknamed as Paulus, as follow:

Paulus I - 29 May 757 – 28 June 767 -
Paulus II - 30 August 1464 – 26 July 1471 -
Paulus III - 13 October 1534 – 10 Nov 1549 -
Paulus IV - 23 May 1555 – 18 Aug 1559 -
Paulus V - 16 May 1605 – 28 Jan 1621 -
Paulus VI - 21 June 1963 – 6 Aug 1978 -

Note: We are in the year 2,019 in accord Christian calendar. The prophecy of Revelation is very advanced in the time, today we can and MUST say that the above SIX of the 7 "kings" have fallen, it means, they already died. And are destined to eternal perdition, to the hell's fire.

Paulus VII - This seventh "king" and last Pope is not yet come; and when he cometh, he MUST continue a short space, i.e. 42 months or 1,260 days, no more, no more, as it is determined by the Word of God, the Word is God.

THE SECOND BEAST - THE BEAST THAT COMES UP OF THE EARTH - THE DRY LAND - THE 666 - Revelation 13:11-18

This is ANOTHER religious Beast that will come up soon from the earth - a dry land - Israel - THE 666, which has 2 HORNS like a lamb (a false lamb, an ESOTERICAL and MYSTIC false messiah of the Jews, an IMPOSTER), and he will speak as a Dragon, whose MAN exerciseth all the power of the FIRST Beast before him, and this false messiah will give to the FIRST Beast HIS POWER, AND HIS SEAT, AND GREAT AUTHORITY, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the FIRST Beast that had one of his 7 heads wounded mortally and all the world will wonder after the Beast. And they will worship the Dragon, the esoterical and false messiah of the Jews, an IMPOSTOR, which will give power unto the FIRST Beast: and they will worship the Beast, saying, Who is like unto the Beast? who is able to make WAR with him? And will be given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him - to the FIRST Beast - to continue forty and two months or 1,260 days, as is written in Revelation 13:v.5.

I intend to write more detailled about this ruthless and satanic false messiah, a false lamb, of two horns, symbol of the two kingdoms of Israel, and he speaks a Dragon, by the way, the red Dragon. Revelation 12:v.3-4

Who are ready for the battle? Now see, " if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?"

Revelation 21:v.8 - 8 But the fearful(cowards), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings and LORD of lords
Oseas

 

Would now be a good time to talk about me being dispensational? LOL

 

History proves no such thing.the American Civil war fits into the great revival and awakening to ending slavery.

 

On what exegesis do you base interpreting "angel" as "pastor"? Thanks.

 

The same exegesis most everyone else interprets it that way. Angel is a messenger. The messenger of the church is the pastor. The pastor is supposed to deliver the message to the church. Not sure where the difficulty lies for you.

 

Because the interpretation leap frogs to pastor. When Jesus interpreted the stars (Revelation 1:20) he said the stars were angels/messengers. Saying the messengers are pastors adds another level of interpretation that Jesus did not. Pastors/elders/bishops are not called angels in the Bible.

 

You missed something here. The message was to the church. Who is the messenger to the church?

 

Where does the Bible use that terminology concerning the pastor?

 

Where does the Bible use the terminology of the 4 horses other than in Revelation?

 

Chariots?
Zechariah 6:1 And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains were mountains of brass.
2 In the first chariot were red horses; and in the second chariot black horses;
3 And in the third chariot white horses; and in the fourth chariot grisled and bay horses.
4 Then I answered and said unto the angel that talked with me, What are these, my lord?
5 And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth.
6 The black horses which are therein go forth into the north country; and the white go forth after them; and the grisled go forth toward the south country.

 

Do you really think that is the same thing?

 

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Even the precious 'Geneva Bible' says Angel=the Pastor:



[cross references to Malachi 2:7, where the Hebrew word for angel is used for priest]

I'm curious as to just what could be motivating you to read it otherwise.

 

The mystery of the 7 stars that JESUS revealed they were at His right hand.
The letters were addressed to the 7 stars of the 7 churches as is write: "Unto the angel of the church of . . . write ..."

The MYSTERY of the 7 stars that JESUS said they were at His right hand and revealed that they were the angels of the Churches, if we analyze this more deeply we will see here the fulfilment of the prophecy of Daniel, saying propheticaly: Daniel 12:v.3 - They that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that TURN MANY to righteousness as the STARS for ever and ever.

Now, now, who created the STARS was God for to do exactly this work (Genesis 1:v.16)

Revelation 12:v.1 - 1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve STARS: - These 12 STARS of the crown of the woman are the 12 Apostles of the Lord. By the way, JESUS said unto them: Matt.19:v.28 - Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of His glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, Judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


But there are also WANDERING stars

Jude 1:v.12-13

12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; WANDERING STARS, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.